Of course Mac OS X just now got Java 1.3, while the rest of us have
access to 1.4. Having access to JDK 1.4 is extremely important if you
want to work with Web services.

I am willing to bet that we have access to Java 1.5 before Mac users
have 1.4.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Where is javac?
> 
> On Wednesday, September 4, 2002, at 03:08 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
> 
> > I don't think that's true, actually. Many might provide a JRE, which
is
> > needed to run Java apps, but not a JDK, which is needed to develop
> > them.
> > Does OS X ship with a full JDK?
> >
> 
> Why, strange that you should ask -- Yes it does  ;=)>
> 
> Here's a link:
> 
>       http://www.apple.com/java/
> 
> Here's a quote:
> 
> Mac OS X provides a highly-optimized, tightly integrated
implementation
> of Java 2 Standard Edition 1.3, including the client version of the
> HotSpot virtual machine. As the only high-volume desktop operating
> system to ship with Java 2, Mac OS X is emerging as the best place to
> develop and deploy your Java applications
> 
> Below is  a display after a standard MacOS X 10.2 (Jaguar) install.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Dick
> 
> [TiBook:~] cfmx% whereis javac jdb javadoc
> /usr/bin/javac
> /usr/bin/jdb
> /usr/bin/javadoc
> [TiBook:~] cfmx%
> 
> [TiBook:~] cfmx% ls -l /usr/bin/j*
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    65300 Jul 27 19:52 /usr/bin/jam
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    23164 Sep  2 04:55 /usr/bin/jar
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       62 Sep  4 16:02 /usr/bin/jarsigner ->
> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/jarsigner
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    23164 Aug 24 16:47 /usr/bin/java
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       65 Sep  4 16:02 /usr/bin/java-rmi.cgi
> -> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/java-rmi.cgi
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       58 Sep  4 16:02 /usr/bin/javac ->
> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/javac
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    19336 Jul 27 20:05 /usr/bin/javaconfig
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       60 Sep  4 16:02 /usr/bin/javadoc ->
> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/javadoc
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       58 Sep  4 16:02 /usr/bin/javah ->
> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/javah
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       58 Sep  4 16:02 /usr/bin/javap ->
> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/javap
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    33260 Jul 27 20:05 /usr/bin/javatool
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       56 Sep  4 16:02 /usr/bin/jdb ->
> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/jdb
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1726456 Jul 27 19:58 /usr/bin/jikes
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    18604 Jul 27 19:58 /usr/bin/join
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    18556 Jul 27 19:57 /usr/bin/jot
> [TiBook:~] cfmx%
> 
> 
> 
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