What makes this so compelling (and so frustrating) is that we all are 
on the same side!

Dick

On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 08:34 PM, Joe Eugene wrote:

> Yea!!! thanks a lot Ben .
>
> We are looking forward to any improvements...and will defnitely brag 
> on it..
> when its out...
>
>> Oh, I agree. CF should keep getting better (and I believe it has been
>> doing just that).
>> So, yep, suggestions on how to improve CF are useful, and we'll keep
>> doing just that. Just don't expect CF to do it all, it can't and 
>> frankly
>> it shouldn't.
>
> Dick, thanks again on your support...
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:17 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
>>
>>
>> Dick,
>>
>
>>
>> My only point is that they'll always be a better way to do something,
>> whether it is a small piece of code or a complex process, and whenever
>> that is the case the solution is to use the right add-on or extension
>> technology.
>>
>> Fact of the matter is that CF has supported extensions ever since the
>> CFX API was added way back in CF2. Then came COM, CORBA, Java, etc. 
>> All
>> along there has been an understanding - CF cannot be the best at
>> everything, nor can any other language or technology or platform.
>>
>
>>
>> --- Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:14 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
>>
>>
>> Aw, 'cmon Ben, one of the great advantages of CF is it can address a
>> broad range of applications -- all Joe wants do to is extend the range
>> & help MM sell into a broader range of solutions.
>>
>> Will MM get them all? --Never!.    Can MM get more?  All of us
>> certainly hope so!
>>
>> What if optimizing the code made CF a viable option to 20% more of the
>> market than they already have -- anyone of could sell the advantages 
>> of
>> CF over JSP into that marketplace!
>>
>> Geeze, I did it again!
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 07:47 PM, Ben Forta wrote:
>>
>>> Some parts of your app should not be written in CF, no one has ever
>>> said
>>> otherwise. Similarly parts of your app should not be written in Java.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
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