Many other products have solved this by a small change in their licensing agreement.
1. Price the server product to cover 1 Production + 1 Development install for Price X. or 2. Price the server stand along at 5k, price a Production + Development License for 6.5k. The licensing agreement specifically details what can be done and not done on the Development licensure. IMHO, MM lowers the general quality of CF development by asking to get full price for Test and Development licensure of their product. I think most developers and IT managers will agree you need to maintain 3 distinct environments: Production, Test, and Development. And, these environments should mimic one another as much as possible, ie same software versions, OS, clusters, etc. Since most shops are not comfortable forking out 5k/box just for licensing of their test and development farms, they often simply choose not to have one, both, or choose not to replicate production clusters into the other 2 environments. Any of these scenarios places the developer into situation where they can not get a hands on feel of what is happening in the production environment. But, I'm sure MM has heard this rant over and over. </rant> Trey Rouse > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb@;outofchaos.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:00 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Pro v Enterprise? (was: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good > is the Job Market for ColdFusion? > > At 05:04 PM 10/16/02 -0700, Sean A Corfield wrote: > >On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 16:28 US/Pacific, Greg Bullough wrote: > > > In doing so, you have not only hobbled a lot of development paradigms > > > where > > > people develop on Pro and deploy on Enterprise Clusters > > > >Given that the Developer Edition is effectively a dual-IP Enterprise > >version, I'm not quite sure how common your development paradigm would > >be? I'm not too familiar with how CF folks work in general... > > Apparently. In OUR shop we have several development servers with different > OS platforms and versions of CF. Generally 4.5 and 5.0 on each of NT and > Linux. We do it this way because we find that running studio AND the > server > AND the DB on one (typical) desktop machine is not realistic. > > To restrict any of these machines to 'dual-IP Enterprise version' would > mean > about 1/3 of the people who need access to any one machine would actually > be able to GET access. > > Remember, these aren't deployed sites. They are development machines which > each host a subset of the dozens of DEPLOYED sites we have built and now > maintain. > > In effect, what you're saying is 'If your project is bigger than one that > requires > two developers, you're screwed with Developer edition. Spring for another > $5000.00 enterprise license, or buy your final license 90 days earlier.' > > Feh. > > >My team have Developer Edition installed on every desktop and laptop and > have > >Enterprise Edition installed on all the shared servers (yeah, I know, > >we don't have to pay for it - I'm just reporting how we operate is > >all!). > > Your team is, I believe, more of a marketing team, building demo and 'toy' > applications. > > A real 'enterprise' project is often going to want everyone on the same > development > box, seeing the same development database, and running full-out. It used > to be > you could use Pro for that purpose. > > Yes there is the Partner program with it's full NFR licenses, but the > Partner > program has become less palatable over the last couple years as well... > > Greg > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
