I started this thread, and maybe I should end it. I posted it here, because I thought it applied to individual CF developers -- whether part of a large organizations or one-person shops.
I also thought , that because of the members of the CF-Talk list, it would get better/faster response than the other HOF CF lists -- everyone is on this list, many are not on CF Community, CF-Linux, etc, My apologies to everyone, especially Michael, if this was a disservice. The original, request was to expand, slightly, the number of external IPs supported by the CFMX Trial (Enterprise) system after it reverted to the Developer system. The number of external IPs I had in mind, was 2-4, so that with localhost, the Developer version would have a total of 1-5 addresses. The propose was to allow a single developer, with a single Developer system to do: Multi-user Demonstrations/Presentations Multi-user interaction testing, debugging Limited Stress testing Use of Advanced CFMX features - Consuming/publishing web services, Flash Remoting, etc. Someone added multi-user walkthrough of an application to geographically distributed members of a team The intent was to help the individual developer to do his job, better, The intent was not to use this expanded capability to allow multiple developers to share a single system for development. Unfortunately, as the thread progressed, it morphed into a multi-user Developer system -- this would mean lost revenue to Macromedia, as it would displace sales of CFMX (pro or Enterprise) to Development shops, who stage their development on such in-house systems, before deploying on a production system (in-house or out-house). Again, that was not the intent. And, if you think about the way the additional IPs would likely be handled in the expanded system, it really wouldn't work well as multiuser developer system. Consider this, assuming 4 external IPs were allowed: -- The number of external IPs is *NOT* any 4 concurrent external users.. -- Rather, it is the first 4 external users who access the system. -- Once 4 users have accessed the system, all others are locked out. -- If any or all of the first 4, turn their machines off or go home, it doesn't change anything -- all other users are locked out -- the only way to remove the lock is to recycle the system C'Mon, how practical would it to be on a team of 5 users, sharing such a system for development. -- The person who is localhost is the only one who can do CFMX admin things -- Whenever another IP (after the first 4) wanted to access the system, it would need to be recycled (and coordinated with all the others sharing the system) -- the localhost person would get stuck with all the SA duties, and not be able to control his development activities. -- the localhost person could do lots of things (burn a DVD) and bring the others efforts to a halt -- Other than localhost users would be at the mercy (whim) of local host. -- noone could get anything done without localhost being there -- noone, including localhost could take their work with them (home, client, off site presentation). If I had deadlines/commitments to meet, I wouldn't go within miles of a "Developer" system, like that. Rather, I would put CFMX Developer on my laptop or desktop, along with whatever DB, files, etc. -- and, aND, AND --- Be in complete control of my own development environment (maybe IDE really means Individual Developer Environment). Could a shop of three users avoid buying a CFMX license, by sharing a "Developer" version? Sure they could, but if you want to beat the system there are much better ways . I maintain, these three would be much better off, if each had his own copy of CFMX developer installed on his own computer -- why share that? You lose all the advantage (independence) of the CFMX Developer system. When you need to collaborate, you plug into a "real" staged development system -- not some emasculated system that gets recycled all the time. Well, I guess I have beaten this to death, but I would like to try and make one final poignant. A single-Developer system that supports a limited number of external IPs will allow that developer to be more efficient -- which should result in more, and more-rapid deployment of production CFMX systems. This equates to revenue for Macromedia, and a improved relationship with the developer community. For the reasons discussed above, I don't believe that expanding the single-Developer system will have any impact on the purchase of CFMX for multi-user development purposes. I hope that Macromedia will consider this as a serious request, with potential benefits to Macromedia, CFMX developers and our clients. Dick On Friday, October 18, 2002, at 05:38 AM, Randell B Adkins wrote: > Use CFFILE to obtain the properties of the > given page and use the DateLastModified. > > This will give you atleast the date it was last updated. > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/02 08:18AM >>> > ********************************************************************** > WESTMINSTER CITY COUNCIL > Please refer to the disclaimer beneath this message > ********************************************************************** > > Hi all, > > How can I get the latest version of a CF page. 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