ASP won't integrate gracefully with Java. ;P At least I don't think it will... Seems contrary to Micro$ofts agenda.
And CF's implementation of COM has ( or so I've heard ) always been somewhat hit or miss. Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > Doug, do you have an example of something that > "...one will do that the other won't". > Just curious... > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug [mailto:doug@;dwhite.ws] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:05 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > Visual Basis is the scripting language for ASP, and is > integrated into most > all Office applications, > it is not going to go away > Several web sites that I host are done using a combination > of ASP and CF > (mix and match) > There are things one will do that the other won't, etc. > ================================ > This address is filtered through the open relay database > at > http://www.ordb.org > and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR > http://www.dwhite.ws > mailto:doug@;dwhite.ws > ================================ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Beer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > | In 1991, my IT department head, a C programmer by trade, > told me > | (paraphrasing) "Visual Basic? Don't waste time learning > that - it will > | never be accepted ... you'll never make a dime ..". > | > | Well, 11 years later there are many people making a lot > of dimes from > | VB, writing very powerful, functional apps, and people > still call it a > | toy.. > | > | Matt is right - CF is being treated exactly the same > way. > | > | In my mind, CF currently is immature, as VB was back in > 1991. In time, > | CF will be that powerful, stable, reasonably bug free > platform that CF > | 5.0 *almost was*. Ack.. CFMX should have been delayed > a year or > | three... Just my opinion. > | > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] > | Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:39 PM > | To: CF-Talk > | Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > | > | > | Not really. I get great enjoyment out of watching people > make fools of > | themselves by attacking programming languages without > merit. > | > | Matt Liotta > | President & CEO > | Montara Software, Inc. > | http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > | 888-408-0900 x901 > | > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob@;cardinalweb.com] > | > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:35 PM > | > To: CF-Talk > | > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > | > > | > oof, hit a sore spot eh? > | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] > | > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:19 PM > | > To: CF-Talk > | > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > | > > | > > | > People talk shit about VB more than any other > language. Most calling > | VB > | > a toy because it is easy to create applications with. > Ironically, VB > | is > | > used in every Fortune 2000 company and has the largest > developer base > | in > | > the world mostly because of its ease of use. > | > > | > CF seems to suffer from the same thing. It is quite > simply the easiest > | > | > language to build web applications in and as such is > considered a toy > | by > | > some, while many Fortune 2000 companies use CF for > internal web > | > applications because of this. > | > > | > Matt Liotta > | > President & CEO > | > Montara Software, Inc. > | > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > | > 888-408-0900 x901 > | > > | > > -----Original Message----- > | > > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info@;turnkey.to] > | > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM > | > > To: CF-Talk > | > > Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > | > > > | > > > Sure they do. It all depends on who you talk to, > Just like C++ vs > | VB > | > vs > | > > > Java > | > > > > | > > > At 01:22 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: > | > > >>You know, I am so sick and tired of having to > defend CF, at work > | to > | > > other > | > > >>developers here....... You know I don't see php, > or asp people > | > having > | > > do > | > > >>defend using those languages..... WTF!! > | > > >> > | > > >>F%$# it I am changing career's and becoming a > firefighter....... > | > > > | > > I've heard people talk about having to defend ASP ( > for being > | cryptic > | > and > | > > not being dynamic enough -- my personal reasons for > not liking it > | > after > | > > having worked with it almost exclusively for a year > ) and PHP ( for > | > its > | > > background / history -- I have no clue what this > means ). I probably > | > can't > | > > count the number of times I've heard people refer to > VB with obvious > | > | > > disdain > | > > -- but it still gets a lot of use. And people > complain about Java > | > being > | > > "buggy" or "flakey" with enough consistency that I > can sometimes > | > finish > | > > their sentences. I've had to defend the use of > JavaScript and dhtml > | > even > | > > in > | > > environments where it was known that the company was > standardized on > | > IE > | > > and > | > > no-one should be using the application with anything > else and there > | > was no > | > > plan to change. > | > > > | > > > | > > S. 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