Well CF5 didn't have COM issues. It was very easy to leverage to power of COM through Cold Fusion, and as a result, many of us have integrated COM into our solutions. Now, if our COM solutions don't work... they we cant upgrade. Plain and simple. Although it may be a JAVA issue, it's still a feature that CF lost. That MM promised.
I'd like to know where you read that MS said they were not using COM again. I know office 11 will have native web services built it, but web services are NOT an acceptable replacement. COM ----> Web Services ----> Applications I use COM objects to create web services. Taking out the foundation of the architecture doesn't help at all. Are you assuming that MS will design a web service for every possible office interaction? That's impossible. Say you wrote an app using COM to open a word document and add the line "COM rules" to the third and eighth page of the document. MS will not have a native web service to do this for me. I will still need to access the application architecture to do this... and that is what COM does. It gives us access to that architecture, web services can only serve to buffer between COM and and you applications. So is it activePDFs fault for believing MM when they said they would have COM support in CFMX? You act like MM said a year ago to stop using COM, that it would no longer be supported. The bottom line is that the majority of software is written on MS standards and C. The best way to utilize these technologies is COM. If you want Java to grow in popularity, it needs to at least be able to handle COM. Mostly for integrating with the millions of corporation who use MS solutions. (Exhange, Office, etc.) Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -----Original Message----- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:cbetta@;hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ActivePDF (web grabber) and CFMX does not work. >Its the web Grabber I need to use. > >Thankfully I run under IIS so I created an ASP page to do the web capture. > >Seems to be the easiest thing to do in the circumstances while MM get there >COM stuff sorted out. I actually disagree with your last statement for a couple of reasons. First, it's not a MM-specific problem; it's a Java issue. Java has never played well with COM, and, quite frankly, won't ever. I forget the name of the project (AXIS?), but there is an open source effort (which MM uses in CFMX) to integrate COM with Java. Second, why pursue efforts to integrate COM with Java when Microsoft itself has said for a while that COM is going away in favor of .NET? Third, I think the onus is on the ActivePDF people to "keep up with the times" in the sense that MM announced will over a year ago their intentions to shift CF from a C/C++ base to Java. It seems to me that if they wanted to keep their CF customers, they should have focused on a new version that would integrate with a Java-based application server. Last, ActivePDF is a third-party tool, and, as such, MM should not be responsible for improving its integration with CFMX. That's the chance you take when you use third-party tools. You may disagree with me, and that's fine. But I think your barking up the wrong tree by looking to MM fix your problem. Regards, Dave. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
