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I don;t see how that can be.....I simply read the file in IE (including all
source created by loops...as the CF template was being executed just as if a
palm was accessing it) and saved it to a file.  The outputs should be the
same correct?

--b

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Palm/Internet Developer   Home: 727-547-1322
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ConnectWise, Inc. (www.ConnectWise.com)
2803 West Busch Blvd, Suite 204
Tampa, FL 33618
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jordon Saardchit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CF & Palm PQAs


Are you using and Coldfusion style loops to build content in your files???
If so, then remember you are building strings of source which will
dramatically increase filesize (pending on the size of the loop).  Example
being creating a bunch of <OPTION> tags from a query result set.  File saved
will be MUCH smaller than the file read.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Batchelder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 10:48 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: CF & Palm PQAs


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I am using CF to write the server side portions of a palm PQA (basically a
small web app).  Right now I am trying to optimize some pages and here is
what happens:

        1.  I run the requested page in internet explorer.  I save it to a
file.  I then load this static page in the palm web clipping app and it is
903 bytes.

        2.  When I run the requested (dynamic) page through the web clipping
app, it is almost twice as large.....1600 bytes.  These pages are identical
as far as the end result output!

        I am keeping in mind that the proxy server that Palm.net uses does
do compression....so is there any reason to think that a page served from CF
can't be compressed whereas a static page could?

        I even tried renaming the static page with a .cfm and putting some
simple <cfif>'s in there to see if it makes a difference....and it
doesn't....still much smaller than the dynamic version.

        The output from the dynamic page matches perfectly with the static
page....just when loaded in the palm they are wildly different......


This is a big deal since the PalmVII only does ~2 kbps!

any help would be greatly appreciated....

--Bryan

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Bryan D. Batchelder       Work: 813-935-7100
Palm/Internet Developer   Home: 727-547-1322
--------------------------------------------
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2803 West Busch Blvd, Suite 204
Tampa, FL 33618
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>1.&nbsp; I =
run the requested page in internet explorer.&nbsp; I save it to a =
file.&nbsp; I then load this static page in the palm web clipping app =
and it is 903 bytes.</FONT></P>

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When I run the requested (dynamic) page through the web clipping app, =
it is almost twice as large.....1600 bytes.&nbsp; These pages are =
identical as far as the end result output!</FONT></P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>I am =
keeping in mind that the proxy server that Palm.net uses does do =
compression....so is there any reason to think that a page served from =
CF can't be compressed whereas a static page could?</FONT></P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>I even =
tried renaming the static page with a .cfm and putting some simple =
&lt;cfif&gt;'s in there to see if it makes a difference....and it =
doesn't....still much smaller than the dynamic version.</FONT></P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>The output =
from the dynamic page matches perfectly with the static page....just =
when loaded in the palm they are wildly different......</FONT></P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is a big deal since the PalmVII only does ~2 =
kbps!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>any help would be greatly appreciated....</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--Bryan</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bryan D. =
Batchelder&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Work: =
813-935-7100</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Palm/Internet Developer&nbsp;&nbsp; Home: =
727-547-1322</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ConnectWise, Inc. (www.ConnectWise.com)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2803 West Busch Blvd, Suite 204</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I don;t see how that can be.....I simply read the =
file in IE (including all source created by loops...as the CF template =
was being executed just as if a palm was accessing it) and saved it to =
a file.&nbsp; The outputs should be the same correct?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--b</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bryan D. =
Batchelder&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Work: =
813-935-7100</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Palm/Internet Developer&nbsp;&nbsp; Home: =
727-547-1322</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ConnectWise, Inc. (www.ConnectWise.com)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2803 West Busch Blvd, Suite 204</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tampa, FL 33618</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Jordon Saardchit [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:44 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: CF &amp; Palm PQAs</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Are you using and Coldfusion style loops to build =
content in your files???</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>If so, then remember you are building strings of =
source which will</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>dramatically increase filesize (pending on the size =
of the loop).&nbsp; Example</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>being creating a bunch of &lt;OPTION&gt; tags from a =
query result set.&nbsp; File saved</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>will be MUCH smaller than the file read.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Bryan Batchelder [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:BBatchelder@ConnectWi=
se.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 10:48 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: CF &amp; Palm PQAs</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am using CF to write the server side portions of a =
palm PQA (basically a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>small web app).&nbsp; Right now I am trying to =
optimize some pages and here is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>what happens:</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>1.&nbsp; I =
run the requested page in internet explorer.&nbsp; I save it to =
a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>file.&nbsp; I then load this static page in the palm =
web clipping app and it is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>903 bytes.</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>2.&nbsp; =
When I run the requested (dynamic) page through the web clipping</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>app, it is almost twice as large.....1600 =
bytes.&nbsp; These pages are identical</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>as far as the end result output!</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>I am =
keeping in mind that the proxy server that Palm.net uses does</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>do compression....so is there any reason to think =
that a page served from CF</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>can't be compressed whereas a static page =
could?</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>I even =
tried renaming the static page with a .cfm and putting some</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>simple &lt;cfif&gt;'s in there to see if it makes a =
difference....and it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>doesn't....still much smaller than the dynamic =
version.</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>The output =
from the dynamic page matches perfectly with the static</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>page....just when loaded in the palm they are wildly =
different......</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is a big deal since the PalmVII only does ~2 =
kbps!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>any help would be greatly appreciated....</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--Bryan</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bryan D. =
Batchelder&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Work: =
813-935-7100</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Palm/Internet Developer&nbsp;&nbsp; Home: =
727-547-1322</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ConnectWise, Inc. (www.ConnectWise.com)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2803 West Busch Blvd, Suite 204</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tampa, FL 33618</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>--------------------------------------------</FONT>
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<P><FONT =
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</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=3D3D2&gt;This is a big deal =
since the PalmVII only does ~2 =3D</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>kbps!&lt;/FONT&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;/P&gt;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=3D3D2&gt;any help would be =
greatly appreciated....&lt;/FONT&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;/P&gt;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT =
SIZE=3D3D2&gt;--Bryan&lt;/FONT&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;/P&gt;</FONT>
</P>

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