This is quite a thread -- it seems to mean something different to each  
of us:

        convenience

        flexibility

        functionality

        good design

        performance

        readable code

        development productivity

        maintainability

        conformance to Java/CF standards and best practices

        aid to learning Java

So far, I think that every point made has been valid, even though some  
of them are direct contradictions.

Things like:  (I paraphrase) "If you are on a shared server, this is a  
security risk, and would be crippled".

and the response: "That's true, but if you are on a developer machine  
and/or a dedicated server, inline Java would be quite an advantage".

  Let me reapproach the topic of inline Java, this way:

Since it means so many different things to different people, it seems  
to make sense to include the capability in CF -- just another tool to  
help us
RADD applications.

Worried about security, coding standards, and all the potential  
downsides? -- include the capability to cripple the function with the  
CF Admin.

If it is a major effort to implement (I suspect it isn't), then there  
are likely things of much higher priority.

But, it would be nice to have this capability!

Dick

        

On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 03:11 PM, Joe Eugene wrote:

> You loose alot of flexibility.. on a shared server.. How many ppl are  
> running
> enterprise CFMX on shared servers?
> Have ever had to call a function/method in CF around 1000 times on a  
> page? Do
> some math with it...CFObject(Java) blows CF..try it.
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:58:02 +0100 Jochem van Dieten  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Joe Eugene wrote:
>>
>>>> wouldn't need to happen.
>>>
>>> Where do u want it happen?
>>
>> At some MM production facility. As I said,
>> cfobject is a no-go on a
>> shared server.
>>
>> Jochem
>>
>>
> 
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