Not one to start gossip, but I was under the influence that Hal Helms
left the fusebox group. Is this true? If so why did he leave, if not,
why is this rumor floating around?

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Design Pattern Question

Yes this is a good methodology to consider as we all move out of
procedural
methodologies to more 'OO' based concepts.  Yet in my opinion there is a
further dimension that Fusebox achieves, or has done for us, that I have
not
yet seen expounded in CFMX tutorials etc.

Using Fusebox in conjunction with FLIP we have a complete application
design
and development environment from concept-discussion through
coding-ongoing
maintenance.  In addition by using Fusebox we have found it easy to
bring in
developers who had never coded on CF before but who had a good grasp of
HTML, JavaScript and/or ASP-JSP.  Further by abstracting the actual
Fuseaction values till run-time Fusebox truly affords the capability at
another layer of separation, that of separating design from development;
when combined with the very descriptive capabilities afforded by the use
of
Fusedocs.  Finally, the logicality of using Circuits as a
mapping/pathing
mechanism addresses to physical layout questions of developing a web
application.

There is one last very important point here, there have been many
previous
methodologies/frameworks applied to ColdFusion development.  What is
different in Fusebox is it has become the most widely used of all of
them
and that is a very considerable factor for those of us using teams of
developers that can change, grow, shrink etc.

I recommend you take a look at Hal Helms work
http://www.halhelms.com/webresources/fuseboxmxpreso/page1.htm as CFMX
and
Fusebox are melded to form the next iteration of Fusebox.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC
Web Site http://www.webapper.com
Blog http://www.webapper.net

Webapper <Web Application Specialists>

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Bagnato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Design Pattern Question

I think that this is a very healthy design methodology for CF.

Ben Forta has been harping for ages about the importance of separating
the
display, application, and data layers from the CF applications.

The methodology outlined in that page presents this to the CF
environment.

It actually follows many of the well known and widely used J2EE
methodologies out there. That was something that always bugged me about
FuseBox and other methodologies presented for CF.

Those are just my thoughts:
Peter Bagnato


-----Original Message-----
From: Cutter (CF_Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Design Pattern Question

Has anyone here taken a detailed look at the CFMX (semi) OOP design
pattern put forth at http://www.benorama.com? Is anyone here using it?
Formed some opinions? Have anything to add (or subtract)? Know who put
this together in the first place?

As one of my former commanders used to ask "Questions? Comments? War
Stories?"

Cutter




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