Since file upload is part of the http protocol why is CFFILE considered 
such a security risk?

best,  paul

At 02:24 PM 1/30/03 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
> > Follow-up yesterday's thread of trying to screen files before
> > uploading with
> > cffile:
>
>I didn't comment on this tread yesterday..so...
>
> > Just did some comparing of the MX behavior with CF5, to see if could glean
> > any valuable info from initial form before uploading using cffile
> > using CF5:
>
>File upload, is part of the http protocol, nothing to do with cf. Files are
>uploaded as mime attachments. The only thing available to cf is the post
>data, fields plus data, mime attachments, and anything else the browser
>supplies (cookies, agent string etc. )
>
> > If did a cfdump of the form (initial form with file to upload), in MX,
> > regardless the type of file to be uploaded, it showed the form field value
> > as
> > that temporary file (.tmp) --nothing to suggest the actual extension, etc.
> > (Will probably use a JavaScript routine as a partial check.)
>
>The file is nearly always (exception below) uploaded to a tmp file. Once you
>call cffile the file is copied to the filename/location you supply. Maybe
>renamed to the clientfile name which is supplied in the mime header.
>
> > In CF5, however, if the file to be uploaded was something like .jpg, .doc,
> > it showed in dump as temporary files (.tmp).
> > But for things like .txt or .htm, it showed the total rendered
> > file in dump!
> > Not the name--the actual processed page!
>
>This is because the mime type for both htm & txt is plain/text so the
>browser can just upload it as a field.
>
>It takes an understanding of http, to know _WHY_  this is the way it is.
>Web developers really need to read the RFC's !!!!
>
>There are ways and means of figuring out what size a file is _before_ is
>uploaded.
>
>a) applet
>b) activeX
>c) java script in the newer browsers with the permissions set for JS to read
>local files
>
>However none of these are reliable.
>
> > Gotta get some productive work accomplished. Could investigate
> > this forever!
>
>Fun huh ?;-)
>
>WG
>
>
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