Thanks Justin and Ramon,

I figured it was something along these lines.  It's good to know about that
little checkbox for memory space ;-)

This app doesn't timeout, and there could be sessin hijacking with
persistent cookies...so I just take away the possibility ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Buckland, Ramon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: Cookies and browser launch methods


> Bryan,
>
> The tricky detail in your scenario is the non-persistent
> cookie. (See note at bottom for details on persistant/non persist cookies)
>
>
> Now, when you launch a New browser via CTRL+N, it gets
> a copy of ALL the vars in memory at that time from the original
> (including your non persistant cookie).
>
> However, when you launch a new browser via the link, it will
> open up a new instance in it's own memory space and thus does
> not have the cookie existing.
>
> The reason for the 'Taskbar' 2nd browser not running in the same memory
> space as the first two is probably due to the little
> tick box on the shortcut which says 'Run in seperate memory space'.
> (Win2k, if it's not Win2k .. then ask Microsoft :-)
>
> If we wanted a web application to be able to
> have mulitple logins from the same workstation, I would
> use a seperate cookie name.
>
> <side note>
> As you know, when the cookie is persistent, it is stored on disk,
> for all and any instances of that browser to see.
>
> So if you closed
> a browser (and the cookie didn't expire, and the session didn't expire)
> and opened a new browser within the session/cookie timeframe, then
> you will of course get the existing session.
> </side note>
>
> hope that helps, I may be off is some places (all ?) but
> from what i can tell and my experience this fits the bill.
>
> cheers
> Ramon Buckland
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 8:53 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Cookies and browser launch methods
> >
> >
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I've just bumped into a situation I haven't seen before and
> > am wondering if
> > anyone can explain why this happens.
> >
> > The Situation:
> > A site that uses a sessions table in the DB and stores the
> > session ID in a
> > non-persistent cookie once the user logs in.  The site is
> > colour coded based
> > on the user's group.  If I open a browser and login as a user
> > of group A and
> > then use CTRL+N to launch a new window and login as a user of
> > group B, the
> > second login logs me in as the first user.  Now that's not
> > odd, because the
> > cookie's name is the same no matter what user group, so what
> > happens when I
> > log in as the second user is the security routine is bypassed
> > (because the
> > cookie already exists from the first user login) and the app
> > continues as if
> > the first user was logged in.
> >
> > Now for the weirdness.  If I do the same as above EXCEPT I
> > don't use CTRL+N
> > to open a new window....I use the IE icon in my taskbar.
> > When I do that and
> > log in, I do get logged in as a user of group B (different
> > colour scheme
> > shows).
> >
> > So what is the difference where cookies are concerned when
> > launching a new
> > window via CTRL+N or from the taskbar?  Clearly there is some sort of
> > seperation when launching from the taskbar, so if anyone can
> > explain it (and
> > provide a solution) that would be great.
> >
> > I could of course have different cookie names for different
> > user groups
> > (which I may do anyway), but I'd really like to understand
> > what's going on.
> >
> > BTW this has happened in IE 5.5 and 6
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > t. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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> > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > www.macromedia.com
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > Founder & Director
> > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> >
> >
> 
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