It seems that some people confuse private beta's with some type of elitist
recognition, and then feel the need to let everyone know about it. I used to
get a bit irked when 'neo' was under development, and people that didn't
even work at mm would gnash their teeth at others for even bringing up the
word 'neo', but then realized all they want is to let everyone know they're
part of the beta. Knowing this, I don't get as confused - I just wish there
was another way they could be recognized without having to call people
idiots. Maybe mm could make a "private beta testers" web page, and then the
NDA police could link to it in their sig or something - "Private RedSky Beta
Tester - Gold Status" www.macromedia.com/elitiny

If they really cared about keeping the beta private, they would email the
person directly and then tattle to MM. I doubt any of them do this - better
to go for the personal recognition ;P

Adam.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
> 
> 
> OK...why doesn't everybody call the mothers of the folks that 
> said "Red Sky"
> on this list and get it over with....mabye they'll get their 
> mouths washed
> out with soap. ;-)
> 
> We all bloody well know what NDAs are...it's up to MM to 
> enforce them...not
> the members of this list.
> 
> Far more than enough said...come on list police...swing that 
> billy club!!
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
> 
> 
> > Also, Just because MM talks about it, that doesn't mean you 
> are still not
> > under NDA.
> >
> > The NDA is there to protect MM, the products, and the consumers.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:58 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
> > >
> > > > nicely put.... thanks for not calling people idiots.
> > >
> > > Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a 
> second thought is
> > > just wishing for problems
> > >
> > > They put the NDA there for a reason - because the 
> information is for NON
> > > DISCLOSURE!
> > >
> > > Admittedly using the word "idiot" is a little strong, but 
> if Macromedia
> > > ban people from future Betas when they flagrantly broke 
> the NDA, then
> > > they deserve all they get, and no amount of moaning will 
> help them...
> > >
> > > I have strong feelings about NDAs, and if you break them, then you
> > > deserve all you "get" - I have been on MANY Betas where I 
> had to sign an
> > > NDA, and have never broken one - if you feel the need to 
> break NDAs,
> > > then you shouldn't agree to them, simple as that
> > >
> > > That's my $0.02 anyways ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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