Can you explain how you do that? The segmenting, I mean... Thanks. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: !jeff! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: High-Powered Scaling - Was "Milking Every Last Drop..." > > > We further segmented our network so that all the CF Variables > traffic is on > its own segment. CFVars, in a high traffic site, becomes the bottleneck > quite quickly. It does an update on almost every request to your > multitude > of web servers. By segmenting that traffic, and dedicating a > beefy machine > to that purpose, your other backend traffic will be able to move around a > lot better. > > In terms of analysis, I can't give you actual numbers, but I can tell you > that this approach made it possible to keep our site responsive with 40 > front end CF servers. there is absolutely no way we could have done it > otherwise. > > Also, this approach is pretty much a security requirement. > > hope this helps, > jeff sherwood > CIO - BIGWORDS, Inc. > > > > > At 06:40 PM 7/26/2000 -0600, Jim McAtee wrote: > >Great post. One thing to add, and one question: > > > > >7. Get web log data off the servers nightly. Why store this > junk on your > > >web server? Archive it nightly to free space. Also, tune your web > >server > > >to only log the stats you ABSOLUTELY need. Otherwise you're wasting > > >valuable resources on logging junk. Remove this nightly to a > workstation > > >with a ton of drive space so it can analyze it off-line. It sounds > >simple > > >and obvious, but you'll be surprised how many people don't do this. > > > >If you're running a log analyzer, make sure you dedicate a > separate server > >to just this task alone. Chewing on enormous web logs and spitting out > >reports can consume a fair amount of CPU. Given a sufficient amount of > >disk space, this would be a good place to archive the individual site > >logs. Don't forget to ZIP them, they'll easily compress in size by a > >factor of 10 to 20. > > > > > > >9. Network Architecture. Put two NICs in every web server. The first > >NIC > > >goes to a high-performance (not a random brand label) 100Mb switch (a > > >switch, NOT a hub) which then connects to the load balancer > and then out > >the > > >router and any firewall tools you have. This is your outside > connection. > > >The second NIC goes to a SEPARATE switch (NOT the one just > mentioned) to > > >which your two SQL servers (in a cluster) are connected. This is your > >"back > > >end" network. These should be 100Mbps switched so CF can talk > to SQL as > > >fast as is possible. By segmenting these two connections, you get the > >best > > >performance. Your CF connection can get to SQL as fast as possible > >through > > >one means, while IIS is taking the results and getting them to the user > >as > > >fast as possible. Diversifying the channels maximizes the > throughput and > > >keeps the channels clean. > > > >Has anyone done much analysis on this approach? That is, how much > >performance is actually gained? Say you're using 10 full T1's > of outgoing > >bandwidth, this ads up to just 15Mbs of that 100Mbs pipe - and if the > >ethernet connection is run full duplex, that's 100Mbs in each direction. > >Keep in mind that most of the internet traffic is outgoing, and most SQL > >traffic will be in pulling data into the web server. I would think you'd > >need unbelievable amounts of net traffic before you saw much improvement > >by moving that traffic off of this link. > > > >Jim > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:42 PM > >Subject: High-Powered Scaling - Was "Milking Every Last Drop..." > > > > > > > > > > > > >Here are my suggestions > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > >To Unsubscribe visit > >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/c f_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. !j! The mark of mediocrity is searching for the precedent. !jeff! sherwood Director of BIGWORDS.com Web Site Design / JEDI BIGWORDS.com worker#2 .r.e.c.o.v.e.r.e.d.n.e.t.s.c.a.p.e.u.s.e.r. . . . 415.543.1400.x300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.