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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jr Placo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Re: CF Salary Range


| Doug,
|
| Where abouts are you located?
|
|
| >From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >Subject: Re: Re: CF Salary Range
| >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:52:07 -0500
| >
| >I think it is ridiculous -  and is quite a drop from just a couple of years
| >ago.
| >The DoD jobs have held pretty steady. but the private sector is really
| >trying to
| >hire cheap, and what bothers me, is that they are still getting applicants.
| >That low of an hourly rate is what I consider the educational rate - mostly
| >for
| >college students on an internship.
| >
| >Most moderately experienced independents were in the range of $40-45
| >hourly, but
| >there are enough of them available that bids are in the $25.00 range for
| >new
| >gigs.
| >
| >The strongest competition for ColdFusion developers is off-shore -and they
| >are
| >promoting themselves quite well, do very good work, and charge really low
| >rates.
| >The headhunters love them because of the increased profit margins.
| >
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| >----- Original Message -----
| >From: "Mike Brunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:06 PM
| >Subject: RE: Re: CF Salary Range
| >
| >
| >| Doug, that's very low.  Where abouts are you located?
| >|
| >| Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
| >|
| >| Original Message -----------------------
| >| In this area CF'ers are earning from $23k to 55K annual  full time
| >employed.
| >| with a median around $33k.
| >| consultants are going anywhere from $22.50 per hour to around $45.  I
| >have not
| >| seen anything in two years over that in this area, except for DoD jobs
| >(with
| >| clearances) which are in the $65-75k range.
| >|
| >| I am seeing more and more offers being made in the $12-15 per hour range,
| >and
| >| still getting applicants.
| >|
| >| Not a great state of affairs, but improving slightly of late.  Kind of
| >glad I
| >am
| >| retired.
| >|
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| >| ----- Original Message -----
| >| From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:19 PM
| >| Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
| >|
| >|
| >| | Before everyone starts saying that this information is illegal due to
| >price
| >| | fixing, please be aware that we've bashed that topic to death and as
| >long as
| >| | we're NOT setting a price level for our work, there is NO issue.
| >| | That being said, I've been seeing a few jobs fly around in the 60
| >range, but
| >I
| >| | think that is mostly due to head hunters fees. The same jobs without
| >the
| >| | headhunter goes for a few thousand more. Before the dot bomb, I was
| >making
| >| | $120,000/year and had a contract after for 18k/month (then 16k/month).
| >Now
| >its
| >| | impossible to find contracts of the sort. I'm looking for jobs in the
| >90k-110k
| >| | range.
| >| |
| >| |
| >| | > I'am doing a study on technology pay scales. Can some people please
| >post
| >| what
| >| | most Coldfusion developers make or a range?
| >| | >
| >| | > Thank you
| >| |
| >| |
| >|
| >|
| >
|
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