We the developer do not have access as of yet to the NetTracker/6.0
Enterprise results.   I am assuming we will get a copy of it in a report
of stuff we need to fix. BTW it looks like NetTracker/6.0 Enterprise
calls the pages with any url vars.  Can't wait to see the report on
that.

None of the pages that NetTracker/6.0 Enterprise is finding are default
files.

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Bots / spiders finding unlinked pages... How?

does the program tell you the refering pages?  On google you can find
out
how many sites have links to yours.
Also, you might want to check that none of your hidden files are the
folder
default files as well.

DRE

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Bots / spiders finding unlinked pages... How?

Another way, I've heard of "hidden" files being found is by user's
browsing.
If a user was looking at one of these non-linked files, then moved onto
another page.  The URL of the hidden file is available as
"HTTP-Referrer"
This could then be followed back to the original file.

--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Bots / spiders finding unlinked pages... How?

One possible way is if you have a search feature built into your site.
Internal search engines index files not by URL but by directory/file and
would therefore find "hidden" documents.  If the spider can somehow
access a
search results page (submit a blank form maybe?) those files might show
up.

Regardless, never assume that a file is safely hidden on your website
simply
because it is not linked to.  There have been several high profile
"finds"
of "hidden" files ranging from obituaries for people who were not dead
to
sensitive internal documents.  As a rule, don't put anything on a web
server
unless you're willing to let people see it.

--
Mosh Teitelbaum
evoch, LLC
Tel: (301) 942-5378
Fax: (301) 933-3651
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ <http://www.evoch.com/>
<http://www.evoch.com/>

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT:Bots / spiders finding unlinked pages... How?

One of our clients' IS department just got NetTracker/6.0 Enterprise and
has set it loose on the site.  It has found several pages that are not
linked from any where.  I do not have directory browsing turned on and I
know these pages are not linked from any page..

How is it possible that it found these unlinked pages?

Can other Bots / spiders also find unlinked pages?

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

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