DOH!  thanks Doug...been going in circles following advice...forgetting what I already know..hehe

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:05 PM
  Subject: RE: Latest Windows Updates

  prob better to use the services panel to do this.  

  Doug

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:52 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Latest Windows Updates

  So, you are trying to stop McAffee?  I would think you could remove it from
  the registry(in the Run area) then reboot, right?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:44 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

  Arrrrghhhhh.....I try and end processes running under the "System" username
  and all I get is access denied!!!  I'm in as the Administrator!!!

  It's just getting worse....now CPU is done to 2-4% but anything I try and run
  says "can't be done...not enough resources" and RAM is in good shape!!!

  If I could just get Add/Remove Programs to run I could uninstal the updates
  from yesterday...but NOOOooOOoo

  Oh well.....time to go find a nice quiet place to shoot myself ;-)

  Cheers

  Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  t. 250.920.8830
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Doug White
    To: CF-Talk
    Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:27 AM
    Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

    Yes, As I understand, McAffee still uses a 16 bit scanning engine - and as a
    result really slows down some system.  So much so, that it has caused many
  to
    abandon the product for a more efficient one.

    Don't hold me to this, as I abandoned McAffee back in the Win98SE days for
  that
    reason

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Bryan Stevenson
      To: CF-Talk
      Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:47 AM
      Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

      Oh ya Doug...

      Isn't F-PROT to do with virus scanning??  I've seen an alert about McAfee
    mabye not having all of the right stuff installed....guess that might be
  that
    bad guy??

      Cheers

      Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
      VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
      Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
      t. 250.920.8830
      e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Doug White
        To: CF-Talk
        Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:32 AM
        Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

        A place to start:

        Start looking for 16 bit versions of applications that are running.
  Such as
    A/V
        scanners, software firewalls, etc.    Most running processes are running
    under a
        system account, so it is time consuming to isolate the offending
    application.

        Next try disabling processes running under "system"  one at a time with
  the
    CPU
        monitor running and observe which one(s) make a big difference.
  Sometimes a
        re-install of that particular application will do the trick, but most
  will
        require upgrading to a 32 bit version of the process.

        In my case, I had to update the F-PROT scan engine to a 32 bit version
  and
    that
        solved the runaway issue.

        Good luck!

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          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Bryan Stevenson
          To: CF-Talk
          Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:35 AM
          Subject: SOT: Latest Windows Updates

          Hey All,

          We applied the latest round or about 5 security updates to our Win2K
          Advanced Server yesterday and then all hell broke loose.

          It now takes about 10-15 minutes to get to the desktop, then another
  15 or
          so before SQL Server and a few other services get running....CF
  service
          never started in that time so I went in and set it to a manual start
    (trying
          to free up resources).

          Basically, the "System" process (not System Idle Process) is taking up
  all
          the CPU time...occasionally letting go for a few seconds.

          Being that the system moves SO slow it's tough to check things to try
  and
          diagnose...so I'm here asking for help ;-)

          Any..and I do mean ANY advice would be great

          TIA

          Cheers

          Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
          VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
          Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
          t. 250.920.8830
          e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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