preferably pretending it doesn't exist" ;^)
In any case there's already a very specific middleware tool in place that
we're being forced to use - we won't access CICS specifically but rather
this "GMI" layer.
Jim Davis
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF
On Apr 21, 2004, at 5:48 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
> Actually we use CICS on our mainframe. I've just started a project
> where I
> need to deal with it for the first time.
>
You might want to look into Mitem at:
http://www.mitem.com
For the record, my daughter has a very minor stock position in Mitem
> Also, just to round this out, it was IBM Consulting Services that
> "recommended" WebSphere as the obvious solution for the
> enterprise. The
> management hired them to examine our then-current applications
> (written for
> our part in CF) and determine our future course of action.
>
> How surprised were we when they settled on WebSphere on AIX? Not
> very. ;^)
>
Well, you go with what you know...
... It's likely different now, but when I recommended IBM products or
services, I knew if they did not perform, I had complete access to the
responsible parties, their immediate superiors... all the way to the
chairman of the Board.
I t gave me a lot of confidence in my recommendations -- I am not shy!
Dick
> Jim Davis
>
> _____
>
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:20 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF
>
> On Apr 21, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Jim Davis wrote:
>
> > This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but
> comes
> > from
> > another end. My (very large) company won't consider either product
> > because
> > their both too cheap - and so (goes the management opinion) are not
> > fit for
> > enterprise use.
> >
> >
>
> I used to work for IBM Data Processing Division and many IBM products
> were (rumored to be) priced this way (high) because they had a
> "perceived" greater worth.
>
> One specific product comes to mind, CICS.
>
> This was a back-end terminal to MaimFrame CPU (no network) information
> system.
>
> It was a good system, but nowhere near the capability, power,
> ease-of-use, etc. of CFMX.
>
> Work was essentially completed on the product in the 1980's and it
> went
> into maintenance mode (no new development)
>
> The last I heard the number of users of the CICS (MaimFrame DOS)
> version was over 30,000 users.
>
> The average cost to IBM customers was $3,000....
>
> per month
>
> You do the math!
>
> Dick
>
> _____
>
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