I use Fusebox 3 (modified) at work now as well, and I find it much less
satisfying that I would have thought (being mostly an observer before).
Interesting thoughts you have there, I can't disagree.


In one implementation (not mine), there was a case where the same qry file
was called 5 times without modification, so it was possible to re-use the
qry file, but apparently very difficult to re-use the query results in that
case. I found that very odd myself, but it does point to the issue that you
highlighted.


- Calvin

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From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...

I'll take the bait since I use Fusebox but I am not, as they say in the
world of politics, a "true believer".

Fusebox, IMHO, is a little slow if you use it without modification to the
core files. There are tradeoffs with any approach, and one of the tradeoffs
of Fusebox is sacrificing some speed for flexibility and ease of use with
little requirement to understand how the framework works internally.

Fusebox can eat a lot of memory on a per request basis depending on how you
implement and what data you store and use in your app. That's not a
Fusebox-specific issue, but again, because you can build without
understanding the internals of the framework, you can end up with a
memory-hungry application if you are careless.

Fusebox uses layouts for presentation. Layouts limit your presentation
flexibility to some extent. There are ways around it, but I am talking about
a default FB implementation.

Lastly, and in my own personal pet peeve department, Fusebox apps can be a
pain in the ass to debug, but you get the hang of it over time.

Before the flames start, I'm not interested in a debate. My observations are
purely anecdotal based on my experiences with FB 3. I have gone the route
Sean describes of using CFCs for OO modelling in my apps. I haven't used the
other frameworks so I will not comment on them.

Pick a framework and stick with it, or build your own if you prefer. Get the
Gang of Four book on patterns for OO development, peek under the covers of
FB, Mach II, etc. and see how things work.

>Calvin asks the question that must never be asked... ;)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>What specifically don't you like about fusebox?
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