Most modern tools can generate a script or "forward engineer" straight
to the database. The first option (script) lets you see *exactly* what
is being done. I recently used Sybase Powerdesigner 9 (10 is out now) to
generate an oracle schema totaling over 30k lines of script (including
auto-generated pl/sql packages and data for lookup tables). I also
always start with pencil and paper, but you can't manage a database that
size by hand without making mistakes - especially when you start making
changes. Dropping your database every night and recreating from a script
stored in CVS ensures that even if a developer is quietly altering
tables in his own little corner... he won't do it more than once.

Yes, you can manage your database in ISQL or SQL/Plus if you want to.
You can also write your CF code in notepad or vi.

just my 0.02 $

/t

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:07 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: DB Survey
>
>Here, here, Tony...
>
>Long live low-tech!! Soapstone and slate forever!
>
>I've been using a combination of brains, paper, and colored 
>Sharpies forever.
>
>And I have a hard time trusting anything that goes from diagram to DB
>FOR you, mostly because I've never seen anything auto-generated by
>anything that auto-generates that was really as well-done as it could
>have been.
>
>Laterz,
>J

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