Yeah...the fact that video editing is sooooo easy is the whole point...Flash could be, too, if MM knew how to design an interface...actually, if they would just include some pre-built animations like Swish, then all would be well...(There may be some in the latest version, which I downloaded...but I didn't see them...all I saw was the same ole difficult to use interface. Usually, I don't want to go to a lot of trouble (or expense) to make something, especially some basic, site-enhancing animation...but with Flash, I've found it all difficult...the same way Dreamweaver is...powerful, but a pain to use...*overkill* most of the time. (At least in my market)
As far as video goes...yes, it can be quick and easy, but the high-end productions take a lot of editing, animation, etc...but that's ok, because most interfaces have matured to offer a lot of functionality built-in to editors. I don't have to set all the parameters involved in a cross-over fade, I just drag the fade into position and the program figures out the rest. Flash should be able to do the same...like Swish... Rick -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting remains as elusive as ever It's just different, like learning a new editor, most ppl still think of it like it USED to be not how it now is. I mean come on, you all know I'm clueless and i can do it, so you should be able as well!! Rick, the video part is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy that its SICK!! Here is something kelly had me make, took me all of 10-15 minutes maybe http://www.jamwerx.com/kelly/1/kelly.html **warning semi-adult content** although that wasnt the fianl version as it sticks sometimes but I forgot where the other one is. Personally, I think using swish or flash candy is what gives flash a bad name. I'll tell you this though, flash is as powerfull as you want or need it to be!! Just gotta get used to the enviroment. And it's very "grown-up", once you get inside of it you can plainly see that :) further more, you don't need remoting to get data in, you can just retrieve simple variables like a normal cfm page or grab the data off of a cfc or use the FLASH.var or by url string, xml, plain text, csv, web services, anything. ---------------------------------------- From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:51 PM To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Subject: RE: Flash Remoting remains as elusive as ever I feel your pain, too, Kevin. I looked into Flash when it first came out and found it very frustrating and time-consuming to use. And I do computer-based video production all the time as part of my business, so I'm very familiar with timelines and timeline animation. In the early days, it was just too expensive in terms of labor and price to use...customers weren't interested in paying me enough to create eye-candy. Remoting came along and I tried it again...required learning action-script and purchase of the still expensive software...too much of a learning curve, still. And all the while, I'm watching sites begin to make good, judicious use of Flash to enhance sites. I even downloaded Flash MX 2004 Pro to see what changes were made to make it more "developer-friendly"...good try, but not good enough for me. I tried a less-expensive solution that is intuitive and easy to use for basic animated effects...eye-candy...but for the price of only $100 and very little labor to produce nice results...a lot of built-in effects...just select and apply...(forget all that "tweening" stuff...ridiculous...) Swishzone.com is the place to check out some easy to use Flash creation software...they even have a Flash video creation program...haven't done too much with that...results weren't that great... I think they do have some remoting possibilities there, but I've given up on that again for now. It's nice, however, to spend just a little time and *intuitively* be able to create some nice Flash movies. And, yes, I do use tutorials and read help files and use books...MM's program is the problem. It's still trying to figure out what it wants to be when it grows up... My .02 (+.02) ... Rick -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting remains as elusive as ever Despite the thread title, I wasn't talking specifically about Remoting. I was just talking about the whole Flash thing. We do very few Flash projects so each time one comes our way it's like starting from scratch again. And that's just exacerbated by the changes from version to version. -Kevin -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting remains as elusive as ever while that might be true it also isn't. Flash remoting is a lot simpler to use then pulling in xml or a web service, well actually they all are easy to get into flash its after they are in where it confusing. With remoting its confusing because they have changed the way the classes interact but overall its easier just not too much readily available info out there yet. I would even start with just making the connection with the remoting component and then study the code it writes for you, really only takes about 30 seconds to use the component but its also limited too where you can use it. Also look in flash's help section there is a lot of info in there, there are also remoting examples in there as well. communitymx.com has a tut using the remoting component and tom much as a couple of other ones in there too. I'll try to get a copy of dennis' presentation from our cfug too but that was way over my head!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195486 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
