I'd also like to see these, and also especially in the context of the
productivity layer.

Thanks,
Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Development Speed

Ben,

Can you point me to these whitepappers?  I'm especially interested in how 
"CF adds a productivity layer on top of J2EE" (especially high level 
overview of the whole deal).  If there are any decent code samples or 
tutorials that show off this feature...I'll take them too ;-)

TIA

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: CFMX Development Speed


> Dave,
>
> Yep, we do indeed have white papers that explain this properly. It is not 
> a
> CF vs. .NET vs. J2EE debate, it is .NET vs. J2EE, and if you go the J2EE
> route than CF adds a productivity layer on top of J2EE. CF to J2EE is 
> kinda
> like ASP.NET to .NET. Kinda.
>
> --- Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:19 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX Development Speed
>
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 00:02:41 +0800, James Holmes
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Here is the exact wording of various parts of the September 2002
>> paper, "Application Development Skill and Technology Trends":
>>
>
> September 2002?!!! That's like 1950 in non-IT years! Seriously, now that I
> know the publication date, I can't really even entirely fault the analyst.
> Back in 2002 (remember, this is pre-MX), ColdFusion was not built on
> standards-compliant technologies like J2EE (well, I guess
> C++ is technically standardized, but it was a proprietary server
> application), so I can see how they might have come to their conclusion. 
> As
> I noted previously, Macromedia really let it loose PR-wise with the MX
> release (which was their first release of CF -- Allaire did CF 5). I would
> say that if the paper were written now, the conclusions would be entirely
> different -- even from Gartner. In fact, I seem to remember some Gartner
> reports specifically citing ColdFusion MX as a development platform of
> choice, though I don't have those links handy.
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
>
>
> 



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