>From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:03:15 -0500
>We have been developing applications like this for years. Any attendee of >the DC CFUG/WAMMO groups can attest to that, as we would present them very >frequently. Typically, the initial development would be done by extremely >skilled people, but we would regularly bring on developers to maintain (and >extend) these applications. These developers would typically be competent, >but relatively inexperienced with DHTML development. And yet they would be >able to learn what they needed to successfully maintain the applications! >Imagine that! Dave Watts is usually on the money when analyzing ROI/management/programming/clients. Indeed I was just such a Fig Leaf programmer charged with O+M and scaling just such applications in the late 90s. One reason that this kind of application doesn't frighten me in the slightest- I've been to the abyss of javascript juggling hidden frames and assembling WDDX. I'm not genius programmer, but I'm paid to build applications, not be on the forefront of CompSci R+D- I find the parts with the maximum ROI, hit that sweet spot and reap the kudos. Like Dave, I'm flummoxed by the attitude that Ajax is just too difficult for most people. It's not. It might be hard to invent a new application from whole cloth, but I've been reading enough about design patterns to acknowledge that as a whole, we shouldn't be reinventing every wheel as it is. I am convinced that in 3 months we'll have a series of easy to implement tools that we can share. I tried to explain the technology (or technique if you don't want to use the business definition to my staff and it was over their heads. I did converted the webpasties example to something for our organization and the lightbulbs clicked in people's heads. "If I can do A and B, then I can do C and D too, and what about F?" "Dude, the clients don't need F." What's critical to remember is that throughout history, the best engineers combined and marketed existing technologies. Surely many of you remember products developed for the space program that ended up on our breakfast tables. There is nothing at all anomalous about the marketing behind Ajax and I'm all for it. Don ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199371 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54