What about SQL Server/MySQL? Are you running that on the same box or is that
an additional expense?  Where I feel the value is lost is when you have to
buy a SQL Server license and CF license for less than 10 sites.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Re[2]: CrystalTech does not like negative comments!

On Apr 1, 2005 6:28 AM, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At what point does it become feasible to go dedicated, considering you
have
> to purchase your own software, etc.?  Hosting 5 sites? 10? 25?

Boy is that ever a can o' worms!  There is no straight, always-right
answer.  You would have to look at what you are charging people for
hosting, how much of that you are turning over to CT and THEN work in
these factors:

1. "How nice would it be if I could do anything I want on MY server?
(CFX's etc.)"
2. "How stable would my server become if only my own programming is on it?"
3. "How many sites can I stuff onto this thing?"
4. "Do I know how to run a server?"

I am responsible for two clients' servers there so I know how CT sets
them up.  Its a nice setup, actually.  For starters you get your own
mail and stats servers (Smartertools' SmarterMail and SmarterStats). 
I'm not fond of SmarterStats, but its free.  And I bought SmarterMail
for my own servers as a replacement for IMail when that product went
belly up.

They also give you Serv-U.  Its not the secure version though, but its
still Serv-U.  Plus your operating system is included.  Windows comes
with it too.

That only leaves CF to buy, which ain't cheap.  I suppose you could do
BlueDragon's free or $899 versions too.  Or you can probably rent CF,
and if so it will take you well over a year to equal your rental
payments.  Maybe a good option, especially if you are just starting
out and will be adding (paying) clients over time.

Nobody can touch CT's prices on servers, I think.  US$80 per month for
an admittedly basic unit that would run 10 or so  small CF sites just
fine.  Then bump that up with an upgrade down the road (and keep the
$80 server for a dedicated mail server).  Those dual-Xeon, 2gb units
are dirt cheap for what you get.  So cheap I almost jumped ship from
my server provider when I expanded recently.

-- 
--mattRobertson--
Janitor, MSB Web Systems
mysecretbase.com




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