Bryan, there are a couple of key points in that statement. First, the main point being made about "native integration" with J2EE and .NET being available "only with BlueDragon" is the reference to *both* J2EE and .NET. CFMX has no native integration with .NET. Sure, you can call web services from CFML in CFMX (and you can run CFMX on a server with the .NET Framework installed), but that's it.
That doesn't make it natively integrated. The .NET edition of BlueDragon truly is a native .NET implementation of a CFML engine making your CFML pages not only run alongside ASP.NET pages (without any BD Server) but more important they are processed like ASPX pages (in the same pipeline) providing many new features to your CFML (access to .NET controls like grids and calendars, powerful internationalization, enhanced mobile device support, enhanced caching, session persistence across restarts, and more.) You can also call .NET objects from CFML, call CFCs from ASP.NET, treat cfquery results like .NET datatables and vice-versa, include CFML pages from ASP.NET (and vice versa), and more. As the site (and our docs) explain in more detail, BD/.NET is implemented as a .NET HttpHandler. The CFML remains CFML but is processed by the BlueDragon.DLL, a managed assembly typically stored in the GAC (for those who know .NET). The benefit is that your CFML can leverage nearly everything in the .NET Framework. But I won't go on about the .NET edition. The main point is to clarify that while you can do some similar integration with CFML and JAVA in CFMX (and the Java editions of BlueDragon), you can't do any of this with .NET from CFML in CFMX. Finally, since you may be wondering why we might imply any advantage against the J2EE edition of CFMX, I'll also note that our J2EE edition is quite a bit more straightforward. It really is just a web app. No installer needed, no post-deployment wizard. To answer your question, yes, you could quite easily integrate CFML and an existing J2EE web app. But, yes, you could do that with CFMX as well. I'll just conclude by pointing out that if you want to deploy your CFML on WebSphere or WebLogic, for instance, and you want to use clustering with replication of sessions, CFMX does NOT support that, while BlueDragon does. The lack of support for WebSphere Network Deployment, in particular, is noted in Macromedia technotes and requirements docs. HTH. We'll be discussing the .NET edition in much more detail at the CFUnited event, just as I did at Powered By Detroit this past weekend. Of course, our web site offers lots of info as well, and we can offer a live web demo or answer further questions from anyone interested. I know many on this list prefer not to have "sales pitch" type discussions here. I'm just answering a direct question and am happy to take the discussion offline. Charlie Arehart CTO, New Atlanta Communications makers of BlueDragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] > OK...so I'm still new to Java and I'm wondering about this that I read > on New Atlanta's site: > > Only with BlueDragon can you seamlessly redeploy existing CFML > applications to any standard .NET or J2EE platform. Then, natively > integrate and extend your applications using .NET or J2EE technologies. > > > It's the "natively" part I'm a bit confused about. It makes me think > CF for J2EE is more of an add-on of some kind when deployed on a J2EE > server...and BlueDragon is more integrated into that environment wehn > deployed. > ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202163 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54