I agree Micha, and it certainly didn't help that during significant CF
events (such as the newest version - 7) Macromedia didn't even bother to let
CF have the top banner on their website, for example.

- Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

Just some food for thought, but CF under the name of Macromedia was really
hard for marketing. Macromedia has always been familiarized with Dreamweaver
and Flash. If you talk Macromedia, you talk Flash.
 
The rest of the nonflash related products never had that much marketing
Flash had, or even the attitude being a Macromedia flagship product. It
would not suprise me if alot of people didn't even know that Macromedia also
delivers RoboDemo for example.
 
I think the toughness of CF marketing continous under the Adobe brand,
because Adobe to the outside world is a supplier of Acrobat, Illustrator and
Photoshop. That Adobe has much more nice software to offer is often unknown
to many people. Adobe is a company of those three products, and I think they
would need an enormous amount or media attention to let the outside world
know they deliver CF.
 
For production the Flash Paper format is much quicker than PDF, totally
agree. But what happens when Adobe gets their hands on it, another Acrobat
software package eliminating all that light weight with plugins, extensions,
or heavy weight interface? That same situation is going on with PDF, well,
their last version improved drastically.
 
Big changes are in user interfaces. Macromedia and Adobe fought about some
patents, and with this merge you will get the best of both goods when
talking about user interface. 

________________________________

From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 4/18/2005 6:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!



Well, "Adobe" is easier to type than "Macromedia".

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Dalaa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

Wow, this is just totally surreal. Had a complete out-of-body experience
there for a few minutes. The perspectives and consequences are just
mind-boggling.. And not necessarily all bad.

Adobe ColdFusion
Adobe JRun
Adobe Flex
Adobe Dreamweaver

....... Heh. The thought makes my head spin. I wonder what it will mean for
CF.

Wild stuff.


Jack







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