but, us web designer/developers have a nice leg up on those designer only people!
we can get DOUBLEFUCKED for less pay! :) just kidding of course, im more than taken care of! tony On 4/19/05, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Web designers are the minority of all grapic designers. Which was my point. > > -Adam > > On 4/19/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John didn't say most designers aren't coders. I wouldn't have had a problem > > with that. But John said, "Most don't even understand the concept of a web > > server." As a designer, I called bullshit. Designers made the web > > mainstream. > > > > ColdFusion appeals to many designers because of its tag-based roots. When > > doing web sites, the lines between designer and coder can quickly become > > blurred and I'm glad that a language like ColdFusion exists to make those > > distinctions even blurrier. Design isn't just about making pretty pictures. > > Design is much more often about communication. Clearly presenting > > information. And CF is an approachable tool for facilitating communication. > > > > Along these lines, I see great potential for purchase of Macromedia by > > Adobe. For the last several years, Adobe has been moving into the areas of > > presentation of XML content, content management, document management, > > collaborative editing, etc. leveraging J2EE. They have enterprise > > server-side tools as well as the traditional desktop design tools that > > everyone is familiar with. > > > > Coder vs. Designer? It's all about communication. And "designers" are tech > > savvier than people here probably think. > > > > --- > > Kevin Graeme > > Cooperative Extension Technology Services > > University of Wisconsin-Extension > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:32 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?! > > > > > > John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers. > > > Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_ > > > majority of people who use dreamweaver are graphic designers > > > who can't even write HTML. Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and > > > why it's so popular. > > > > > > Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both > > > areas, but considering the vast amount of knowledge it > > > requires to be a master of either, there are many highly > > > skilled graphic designers (that I have worked with) who can > > > only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding isn't > > > important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic > > > designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still > > > in print and other media. > > > > > > John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a > > > slur) that the majority of graphic designers are not coders. > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203603 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
