Keep in mind that while M.Dinowitz did a lot of great work in creating and
maintaining this list, a lot of the value comes from the contributors, some
of which don't garner much value from the list (from all appearances), and
provide a great deal more than they give.

You would be effectively asking these folks to pay to avoid advertising
while providing the value that you are talking about. 

Just something else to think about.

- Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?

So, $5 per month is more than you can afford?

Or, another way to look at it is: which can you afford
to lose more, $5 per month or the help of those on the
list in your work?

If this is just an issue of principle, why do you insist
that you'll only participate in a free list?  Do you not expect
to get paid for your work?

Rick

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 From: "Burns, John D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:25 AM
To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com>
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text? 

I agree. I like the list and I benefit from it and try to contribute as
much as possible. However, if there was a fee involved, I would not
stick around. I don't mind advertising at all though. I can see the
complaints about the links in the archives and I understand the
reasoning for pulling the image-based ads in the emails. I definitely
appreciate all that Mike does and hope he's able to recoup some money
for it but I'm not in a position to be able to fund that. I like the
idea of the free community and as long as it stays that way, I'll be
here. 

John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?

> I agree with Ewok, here...I only heard one legal threat from a 
> participant and a concern about what the content would be linked to 
> from me...didn't see one other objection...

I would be forced to withdraw, and I imagine that lots of other people
might be in the same boat for the same reason that Jochem and Paul
Hastings mentioned. I've been through this before elsewhere, and I
simply wouldn't be able to justify the risk. And it's worth pointing out
that the list would be significantly less valuable if it loses the likes
of Jochem and Paul.
Between the two of them, they cover everything there is to know about
RFCs and Unicode!

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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