Well said. It's quite obvious that he's been around the industry for awhile as well and though that counts for something, it seems highly unlikely that his speculations should be taken as fact.
On a side note, Custom BSD firewalls can easily compete with highend 'out of the box' solutions and are used by many of the corporations I've dealt with. > Companies copy their competitors > in this way all the time, and they don't need to licence each other's > source > code to do it. If there's one thing at which Microsoft excels, it's this. Most of the apps that are built these days (web-based or otherwise) are inspired by, if not directly taken from different sources/companies/individuals. Most of what developers do is recycle ideas. If you think you're the first person to do something, more likely than not google can quickly obliterate that idea... =] Sadly, if many of these companies would quit trying to out-feature the competition and work toward more standardized ideas, nothing but the best would come of it. I can't imagine how impressive it would be to see the top guys from Java, PHP, Python, Coldfusion & .NET sit down and incorporate the best of all worlds. Of course, I have a better chance of winning the lottery... Sincerely, Kevin www.keslabs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' futur e >> I read more of Bryan's comments, as you suggested, and I >> think he's a loon and doesn't know what he's talking about. > > I don't know. Instead of a loon, he strikes me as a classic example of a > troll. Nowadays, we categorize all sorts of wacky online arguments as > trolling, but the original meaning was quite a bit more narrow, covering > only carefully-crafted arguments that appeared to be sensible at first > glance but were actually nonsensical (ex: "BSD is dying"). > > But yeah, either loon or troll. It's one thing to say that the core ideas > of > ..NET are based on those of Java, and quite another to say that the source > code of .NET is derived directly from Java. Companies copy their > competitors > in this way all the time, and they don't need to licence each other's > source > code to do it. If there's one thing at which Microsoft excels, it's this. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:207959 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54