Excellent points, John Paul. Something for us to think about. Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced intensive Master-level training: * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers * ColdFusion MX Master Class * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Paul Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox? > On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback, Dave. Some other anti-MS folks have said the same > > thing. > > > > How would you feel if we could get Plum working with MySQL under Mono? I > > don't know how compatible it will be with Mono, but that won't matter if > > there is still political resentment over Plum being built using the .NET > > Framework. I'm certainly not criticizing your preferences; I'm only trying > > to understand them (which I assume are similar to many other people's > > preferences) so we can try to make Plum better for more people. > > I'd think MySQL is important (sort of surprised to see the "Big 3" was > MS-SQL, Oracle, and Access... specifically the Access choice) for > anyone, not just those who don't want to run Microsoft software. > > And while I am a strong proponent of open source software, I don't see > a reason at all to port it to Mono -- complete waste of your time and > resources compared to introducing new functionality. Most pragmatic > programmers focus on the getting the job done efficiently -- I know of > more than one OS X convert who still uses HomeSite on a PC :) If the > tool is really useful to you, a second box -- or even better yet, a > Virtual PC instance, is an effective way to leverage the tool. Or in > my case, I do an enormous amount of development using open source and > deploying on Linux, but working on WinXP and VMWare. Some folks buy > Win boxes just to play games -- seems like buying one to run a few key > programs isn't a big deal. > > So to recap -- MySQL (and PostgreSQL) support would be great since it > expands the deployment opportunities. Moving to Mono would *possibly* > open things up to Mac and Linux folks on the development side, but > moving to GTK+ seems like it would be a LOT of work. Maybe a quick > analysis will show it isn't. I would wager that a poll would show more > folks deploying on a currently unsupported db platform than developing > on a currently unsupported Plum platform. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:42 PM > > Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox? > > > > > > > Adam, I loved Plum when I was on beta but.......................... > > > > > > things changed and it wasn't anything plum did it was just the lack of > > support for mysql (as i graduated up a notch from access) but its also built > > upon .net framework and gawd 4 bid I will EVER have anything m$ on my > > machines ever again! (MacTel baby!!)(on pc that is, mac office is pretty > > damn nice, way nicer than pc), so thats limiting a few ppl as well and I can > > only see that as becoming more prevelent in the future. But I certainly > > won't turn on the "disaster magnet" aka pc just to run a framework. > > > > > > Personally, I would rather support Isaac or Joe for their hard work than > > to use either mach II or fusebox. > > > > > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > > > "A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient > > capital to form a corporation." > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:51 AM > > > To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> > > > Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox? > > > > > > > no, because plum is limited to ms sql and I would like something a lil > > bit > > > more main frain then onTap for what I will be using it for. > > > > > > Right now Plum supports MS SQL, Oracle 9i and above, and MS Access. We're > > > going to be adding MySql and PostGreSQL in the future. > > > > > > We really should have launched with MySQL support from the beginning, but > > it > > > would have delayed the launch date significantly, so we decided to go with > > > the "Big Three." It's no problem for the Plum Framework and generated code > > > to handle different platforms; it's building communication support for > > those > > > platforms into the IDE and getting complicated functionality like DB > > > synchronization to work properly with different platforms' system > > catalogs, > > > etc. > > > > > > What version of MySQL do you mainly use? We may need to support MySQL > > 5.0.2 > > > or higher, which is why I ask. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Adam Phillip Churvis > > > Member of Team Macromedia > > > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com > > > > > > Download Plum and other cool development tools, > > > and get advanced intensive Master-level training: > > > > > > * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers > > > * ColdFusion MX Master Class > > > * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209900 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
