I personally think both are a waste of time. I like the idea that's been suggested with Zorn, but that remains to be seen...
The biggest advantages offered by Flash are: - Dynamic Capabilities - Lightweight - Extremely Interactive - Browser Persistence The first 3 of these advantages can be squashed by bad developers and bad practices, which happens frequently unfortunately. The last is lost once page refreshes come back into the picture through dynamic Flash compiling. I understand the need to get a broader market share to expand the Flash Platform, but I'm not positive that different IDE's pumping out different content, compiling to the same byte code is the best course of action. @@ Cents Cheers, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 3, 2005 1:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex On 8/3/05, Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > **Qualifying statement: I'm an expert on neither Flex nor Laszlo. I am > answering from what I've heard and read added to my limited experience > actually using both Flex and Laszlo to build test applications. > > One thing to note right off the bat is that I believe the Laszlo apps > compile to the Flash 5 format, thus cannot utilize the features of AS 2, > but they will play on a few more browsers. I'm not sure that the number > of supported users is a really important distinction since the vast > majority of machines out there have the latest player, but it is > something to think of if you're worried about it. From everything I've > heard/read, Flex is much, much easier and quicker to develop. In Laszlo > apps, lzx files are composed of their xml-based mark-up and javascript, > whereas the Flex markup seems more familiar to the CF developer who's > learned some basic AS. For a CF developer, Flex would seem much more > simple to learn too, owing to the familiarity with MM products on the > whole and the (in my opinion) vastly superior documentation. > Furthermore, many of the developers using Flex are the same developers > you've been talking CF with for several years, which makes it a lot > easier to know whom you need to seek out when you have a question. In > fact, while I don't have numbers to back up my supposition, I'd venture > to guess that the vast majority of people developing Flex apps are also > CF developers or at least Flash developers with a fair amount of CF > knowledge. I have not found this at all to be the case with Laszlo > developers. actually I have found more folks so far are J2EE types, at least on the flexcoders list. Yes, many CFrs are joining in, my self included. see sites like cflex.org for example. If you think Flex is too costly, certainly Flex with CF is too costly, eh? Another reason to go J2EE in the backend....my $0.00002 DK > > Of course, even if I could list points 50:1 in favor of Flex, it's still > priced *WELL* out of the reach of most while Laszlo is free. I wish my > company could afford Flex, as I'd jump on it with both feet. As it > stands though, my limited work with the free developer version is likely > to be my last/only chance to work with it. MM has decided that they'd > rather go elsewhere with the product and has priced it ludicrously high. > (and yes, I am very bitter about that) > > --Ferg > > > > > Bryan Stevenson wrote: > > >Pardon me if this "vs" thread has already happened ;-) > > > >So which is easiest for a CFer to learn? How steep is the learning curve? > > > >Is it fair to say that both are basically a tag based version of ActionScript (broad picture...not a feature by feature comparison)? if not why? > > > >Anything else useful to a CFer looking into these? > > > >TIA > > > >Cheers > > > >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > >phone: 250.480.0642 > >fax: 250.480.1264 > >cell: 250.920.8830 > >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >web: www.electricedgesystems.com > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213639 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
