I don't understand why so many people go looking for free scripts and stuff in CF. If CF is touted as a rapid development language, doesn't that mean you should be able to write it yourself? I hear comments all the time that come across as people being lazy or people being cheap, but you never know people's situations. The whole point of the community is to bring people together who are different. Everyone just deal with it and quit complaining.
As for the comments about not buying t-shirts, what the heck did that have to do with anything? I personally am not a fan of the shirts that were made and wouldn't put them in the category of "Cool coldfusion gear" in my opinion, but it's a start. I applaud Will for starting something and giving it a try. That's the beauty of the community is that everyone can do what they want, when they want. Yeah, support eachother when you feel the need, but if you don't want to, that's fine too. It's just like a living community...not everyone is involved in the same ways and not everyone wants to spend all their time in the community. It's nice to see eachother and help eachother every once in a while, but most of the time, I prefer to venture abroad. Anyway, this whole argument is kinda silly so I'll let everyone get back to work. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -----Original Message----- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 6:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced Well I can safely say that almost everything I have ever gone looking for doesn't exist in CF, but is a plenty in PHP/ASP. I went looking for Affiliate scripts for example. There are tons of good ones for everything except CF, for which I found 1, and it was not free. I can say the same for things like forums, portals, community apps. This really isn't anything that needs proving, it is right there for anyone to see. Feel free to go search for any of those things I mentioned and see what you come up with for CF. CF has some free tags and UDF's sure, but not much in the way of full apps, and the majority of the semi-decent stuff is not free anwyay. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Bramwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2005 02:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced Between Macromedia live docs, HOF lists and a few other sites I think CF is fairly well covered. While it is sometimes helpful do you really need millions of free and mostly useless scripts, whether it be php,asp,js, or whatever. Michael B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Michaels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > Don't pick on cf developers. > Eveyone else is the same, why do you think PHP has such a big community. > Altho what does suck, is that no-one gives anything away for FREE in CF. > Thus why we have millions of free PHP/ASP scripts and like 2 free cf > scripts. > There is only 1 free cf forum I know of, and ALL cf forums free or > not, are > crap compared to the PHP/ASP solutions. > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 August 2005 00:44 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > would you like it to come with your name etched in gold on the cd and > the box customized with your pic and have it hand delivered to your > door and only include the features you want in it. And if they did and > you had to pay > more than a nickle for it you'd still bitch about it. > > It was funny the other night at our cfug we were talking about how frickin > cheap cfm developers are, whining and crying if they gotta spend more > than a > buck for anything and its so true!!! Most of you are even too cheap to > buy one of Wills cfm shirts and show your support, I mean really, It's PATHETIC, > people be ashamed of yourselfs because this is what hurts our community. If > WIll made PHP or Flash or .crap shirts they'd be all bought up in a > heart beat. Lets be real you guys make good money but you act so > broke, come on!!!!!!!!! We figured in our our area (denver) that $45 > an hour was fairly > low for cfm dev'r too make. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > I may whine about ms but at least I spent money on it and therefore > have a > reason but this crap with you guys bitching about stuff and it not > being free is really lame...... > > " but now it costs too much money." > So you make multi-million dollar apps but can't spend a couple of > bucks on > something that helps you make a living??? > Or you cant take 5 minutes to download the plugins you want? btw~ > doesnt rob have a package download for cfm? > Thats pathetic period!!! > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > "A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not > sufficient capital to form a corporation." > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:31 AM > To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > But does that zip contain a full IDE implementing the list I mentioned? > I haven't seen one yet. When someone stands up, and builds an > installer encapsulating this all you have a winner, but now it costs too much money. > > Micha Schopman > Project Manager > > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, > Fax > 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ----- > Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren > de interactie met uw doelgroep. > Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor > meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ----- > -----Original Message----- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 9:51 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > Installer? What can simpler than downloading a zip - unzip it, copy it > to a > folder and click on Eclipse.exe - no reg keys, not added bloat. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 August 2005 20:55 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > The lack of a descent one in all installer is currently holding back > Eclipse. People don't have the time to go through the entire process, > of downloading Eclipse, downloading the Web toolkit, downloading the > prequisites of that toolkit, downloading CFEclipse, etc. > > If they managed to put this all into one package, so that you get > easily started with an Eclipse installation where you can edit > xml,xsl,javascript,(x)html,css,cfml,php without going to that proces. > And > maybe it is there already, and I just did not searched good enough ;) > > As far as DW 8 concerned. For me personally the real good feature is > code collapse, but I hope they didn't took the CFStudio/Homesite > codebase for this functionality, because everybody who used it in > those old products, knows that when you collapsed a large amount of > code, scrolling the document > was a pain in the ass. So at least I hope that they did look at this > "feature". > > I like the enhanced compliance tests showed in the demo on the MM > site, but > for some reason I hope for more. Like that they > - fixed the numerous issues involved with the treeview in DWMX > - crashes when searching through folders with find & replace (and they > occured on specific xml files) > - showing the directory path of a occurence within search results so > that I > might now which one of the 1001 index.cfm's in the results belongs to which > project. > - step into, just like Eclipse has on folders > - enabling selection and printing of the reference inside DW > - fixing the lookup of selections on search > - split code view, like cfstudio had > - breakdown of cfc's in a project > > If they at least payed attention to the treeview they have a buyer, > but I hope they improve the support of the product. I don't understand > why there haven't been released more updaters for DWMX 2004. I hope > they pay more attention to existing customers :) > > Micha > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214727 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
