yup i did write that too you and i did it in responce to your off line Broadcast mail to will that said
"The shirts are boring and look cheap. There. I said it again. You are offering nothing attractive, nothing that I would be proud to wear. They look like something I might find at the parking lot flea market. The font is not even close to being right. And "Property of..."? How original! Did you think that up or was that your mommy's idea? And don't tell me a damn t-shirt is going to raise interest in CF or cause a developer to change from PHP or ASP just because you are wearing a CF shirt! Now get off it already!" You write something like that to someone not even involved and you are going to get something back. ~Dave the disruptor~ "Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time." ---------------------------------------- From: "Connie DeCinko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:16 PM To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced I just thought you all would like to read what Dave Lyons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has on his mind. I feel so sorry for him. _____ From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Will Tomlinson Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced hey listen Connie, ya know what? just like your name implies you are a cock sucking little piece of shit! now there i said it! fucking asshole!! They dont like u in arizona and you arent liked here, so its not like your opinion counts for shit anyways. Nothing that you would be proud to wear eh? trust me we dont want your sorry ass wearing or even being associated with cfm. It's kinda funny all the mail I have gotten tonight saying what an ass you are, lol You are the exact piece of shit loser cheap ass shit that i was referring to in my posts, and if you could so much as read properly you'd seen that the shirts and Will had nothing to do with this, it was more of your lame ass crying over your poor featureless tools and your stupid ignorance over security at shared hosts and all your other "my screws are completely loose" bullshit! you are an asshole, period did you get that or should I say it again? dickhead On Aug 13, 2005, at 12:08 AM, Connie DeCinko wrote: The shirts are boring and look cheap. There. I said it again. You are offering nothing attractive, nothing that I would be proud to wear. They look like something I might find at the parking lot flea market. The font is not even close to being right. And "Property of..."? How original! Did you think that up or was that your mommy's idea? And don't tell me a damn t-shirt is going to raise interest in CF or cause a developer to change from PHP or ASP just because you are wearing a CF shirt! Now get off it already! _____ From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 6:46 PM To: Charlie Griefer Cc: Dave Lyons; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced Charlie and Connie, I think you're both a little jealous. I can't think of any other reason you'd pick on the tshirts. Look, in the first place, I think you're both missing the idea behind the shirts. The idea is simple, the shirts are simple, the designs are simple. They convey an easily understood message, "COLDFUSION". What is "ColdFusion"? They weren't designed to knock peoples' eyes out with flashy wacky ass graphics all over them. That would defeat the purpose. Let me put it another way. The purpose of the shirts is to promote CF and get more people to recognize the name and ask questions. And don't give me the stupid garbage about how the shirts are cheap looking. Every time you say that it makes you look even more ignorant than you already look. Kinda like opening a door into your own noses. Know whadda mean? For the record, the shirts themselves are Fruit of the Loom 100% heavyweight cotton. They're printed by a large outfit here in NC - the same one that does all the screenprinting for NC Universities. So there's no basement printing goin' on. You're the first two people that've commented on the shirts looking cheap. Well, I consider that just like an eBay auction where the seller has 1000 positive feedbacks and 2 negatives. You figure the two negatives were likely just a couple of jackasses, and move on. So to sum it all up, you guys are two jealous jackasses with nothing better to do than run off at the mouth. If I were you, I'd make no more comments because you've already embarassed yourselves enough. Will Charlie Griefer wrote: Hey guys. Sorry for the off-list, but things are getting out of hand. Michael and Judith have both already asked us (yes, 'us'...i'm as guilty as anybody) to cool it once. Right now it's their holiday, so they won't be back on until sundown tomorrow. They're not going to be happy if they come back and see this going on. We can all talk about how much we all do for CF, but none of us has done crap compared to them. Right now, we're shitting in their house. Let's try and show them a little respect, huh? Got issues with each other? Email directly. Got issues with me? Screw yourself then (kidding...got issues with me, email me) :) On 8/12/05, Will Tomlinson wrote: Since a few people have seen fit to label my shirts cheap, I thought I'd post a few comments I've received from customers. I won't name anyone here, but I WILL tell you that you'd recognize the names. I have more ... Will, - No need to reply back. I just wanted to comment that the shirt arrived and is looks great. -Very cool shirt, thanks! -These shirts came really quickly, and they are great! Thanks for offering them. Good luck, -Hey Will, Just to let you know that this lot came through safely. These, and the others should go down a treat at next months UG meeting. Cheers, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214885 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54