Hello all,
I have a client who is an SEO guru, and so prefers that I use css for layout
positioning, as the code overhead is much less, and thus gets the page
content (which search engines are looking for) up closer to the <body> tag.
I can't stand it! Seems like all browsers have different ways of
implementing css positioning. For example if you say (for example)
".thestyle{width=100%}; ", on some browsers that will extend the div BEYOND
the width of the window, thus necessitating side-to-side scrolling...whose
idea was that??
CSS is great for text formatting, and setting background colors/images, but
for positioning...terrible. Seems like very few real world applications
need things like layering and absolute positioning anyway. Tables are more
reliable and easy to work with.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Soultanian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying
Dynamic Data?
> Yeah, CSS is by far the most superior method to giving yourself the
> biggest headache ever imaginable. I've been doing A LOT of css research
> and I am still going to use a large table for general layout and then
> divs within that. Don't get me wrong, css for styling is great, it just
> sucks for positioning. I am still very hesitant about using css for
> positioning as it just doesn't work right in all browsers.
>
> I look at big sites like mail.yahoo.com. Those guys are doing some of
> the most advanced CSS I've seen out there, yet they still use tables for
> general layout because they don't want to deal with CSS positioning
> nightmares.
>
> Want to further that headache, visit:
> http://www.css-discuss.org/
>
> enjoy!
> Mike
>
>
> Rick Faircloth wrote:
>> Yes, tables do make sense for tabular data display...it's intuitive for
>> me
>> to think in terms of query rows and table rows...I just wondered if the
>> CSS and Layers approach had some superior way of working with
>> not just general design, but, especially in displaying dynamic data...
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:29 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying
>> Dynamic Data?
>>
>>
>> one thing to bear in mind is that tables are NOT inherently evil. even in
>> a
>> CSS world, they serve a purpose (to display tabular data).
>> prior shortcomings in browsers meant that they were used for layout,
>> which
>> is what you want to move away from when you move towards CSS.
>> Since you mention displaying column headers and then the query data, it
>> does sound like you want to output your data in a tabular fashion, which
>> would be a appropriate use for tables.
>>
>> On 9/9/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, all...
>>>
>>>I've always used tables to display my data from queries.
>>>
>>>Now, I've begun to be interested more in using CSS and Layers.
>>>
>>>The first question I have is how would one display data from queries
>>>if not by using the top row of a table as the column headers and then
>>>looping through the query, displaying the data for each query row in
>>>each table row?
>>>
>>>That approach makes perfect sense to me, but I don't know enough
>>>about CSS and Layers to know if you have to (or if it's preferable) to
>>>use a table for data display even when using CSS and Layers?
>>>
>>>Also..a table will expand vertically to accomodate more data...will a
>>>div?
>>>
>>>Anyone have any input to offer on the approach to presentation?
>>>
>>>If the answer to these questions and the overall approach is positive
>>>to using CSS and Layers for display, then I'll continue to study the
>>>tutorials,
>>>etc., that I find to learn CSS and Layers...
>>>
>>>Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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