Another thing to think about is how/why your users come to any given 
site. If I have an ecommerce app into which I'm desparately trying to 
pull as many people as possible, I'm highly unlikely to do anything that 
might preclude anyone from efficiently using the site. However, if I 
have a site that people are using because they need to use it, then 
there's less of a problem requiring js or flash...

--Ferg

Bobby Hartsfield wrote:

>Internally as you’ve said... I'd say, "Sorry, you need JS" 
>To an extent, I would do it on many external sites as well.
>
>Sometimes budget doesn't give room to do two versions of specific components
>so the client needs to decide which is more important to them. Global
>usability or flare for the masses. If budget does allow it, I usually write
>2 versions. (provided that the site isn’t dependant on something like
>milonic menu throughout anyway)
>
>Of course, you are already running blackboard (I feel for you) and users
>must have JS for 95% of that anyway so why not an intranet? 
>
>On a different note, I found so many bugs in Blackboard, it wasn't even
>funny! SQL Injection heaven.
>
>You could mimic the data structure and half the code simply from error
>messages in that thing!
>
>..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
>Bobby Hartsfield
>http://acoderslife.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:31 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript
>
>I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site.  What
>is the current mentality on JS?  I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
>and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.
> 
>I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
>use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people.  I will say, that as an
>educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
>it should be a minimal amount.
> 
>Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
>will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
>Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
>their ID number, name or email address.  AJAX will make this task very
>easy.
> 
>However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
>version of the page?
> 
>I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
>give an alternative other than "Sorry, this page requires javascript"?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>

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