I'm getting to this thread late, but I will give my opinion. I started with Homesite 2.5a many years ago. I grew up with it through the two acquisitions. I use CFStudio, then HS+. I used HS+ for the last several years. I tried DW/UltraDev, then DW2004. I didn't really care for those products.
I tried Eclipse, but it seemed a bit overkill for my development. (I won't start a flame war, but to me, it didn't seem to be a very-polished product at the time. Nothing anyone has said on this list has changed my mind yet. I may look at it a bit later.) I loved HS+ with my years of snippets, shortcuts, macros and custom stuff. However, there were some code editing features that just didn't work the way I would have liked. I just lived with them since I still had the majority of my time-savers in HS+. Now that DW8 is out, I have decided to give it my best shot. Our new web developer chose to use a Mac for his development. Since we have two licenses of Macromedia Studio 8, we wanted to standardize on most of our tools. He still uses Photoshop for images and I may use TopStyle for my CSS, but the majority of what we share is done with DW8. Another incentive for us to try DW8 is that we are really pushing our departmental web admins to use Contribute for their web sites. DW and Contribute work quite well together. We are impressed with the concept of these two tools. We never really used version control since there was not much of a need until recently. We also decided to use DW8's check-in/-out feature to make our edits a safer. I am well aware of what version control has to offer. I have several years experience with a multi-million-dollar Solid Modeling CAD system that required check-in/-out for every interaction with the system. It also had excellent version control. I do know that for our web site, we need nothing more than just to know that someone else isn't working on the same file as what I need. We ensure our files are backed-up with other processes that work fine for us. Now, back to DW8... I love the tag closing shortcut of only needing to type "</" then the correct tag is closed. HS+ would close the tag when you typed the first ">" character. I didn't like that all the time. DW gives me more control of when to close a tag. DW8 seems to be quite quick for us. The remote site list refreshes in less than a second even on our largest site. I don't use DW8's live data feature. Many times, the page you are editing cannot operate by itself. For example, the page may require that a form post to it before it can operate. The best way to test this, is to open the application in a browser. That is fine with me. I have not yet re-created my HS snippets in DW8. I know that I can't easily create the same sort of snippets as I could in HS. DW8 requires some extra steps that HS+'s snippet variables made easy-to-use. As I said earlier, I'm just trying DW8 while doing my everyday work. I have not yet found a reason to switch back to HS+. I think the most-annoying behavior is when the DW8 panels disappear when DW loses focus. I'm sure some people love that feature. Personally, it is very distracting. Good luck on your editor search! M!ke -----Original Message----- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? Mark... I personally don't care for Dreamweaver either. But I'm willing to try something new if it will save me time. One thing that's to be considered is it's code rewriting habits. Even if it saves me time in the initial coding, that time is negated if I have to go back and make minor changes to it's formatting. Can anyone comment on Homesite 5.5 (new version I assume)? The thing that appeals to me about newer versions of Dreamweaver is the live data mode. Does HS have something like this? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221566 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
