Sounds like a problem with IT managers that don't do enough "looking before leaping"...
If an IT manager could be convinced simply by "Marketing Speak" they wouldn't be working for me very long... Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:30 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex > > > I'm not suggesting they don't "discuss" things with the devs at all. I'm > just saying that they see something that someone convinced them they > "must have" and they absolutely must have it. So then the marketing > department's job is to make IT mgrs believe they must have it... I have > seen technology changes in a couple different companies made in this > exact manner. > > --Ferg > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > You're absolutely right, Ferg. I have *tremendous* pull over > > the decision maker in my company...because I'm the > > decision maker in this sole proprietor company! > > > > But, seriously, not ever having worked in a corporate > > environment, (and hopefully will always keep it that way) > > I would find it hard to believe that IT managers, > > and others, wouldn't discuss the use of major technology > > tools before taking such a leap...but again, what do I know, > > I'm just the boss. ;o) (and a lowly developer...) > > > > Rick > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:26 PM > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: Re: OT: ColdFusion and Flex > >> > >> > >> While I agree with you guys that it would be nice to have a marketing > >> push aimed at informing and exciting developers, I'm not sure that it > >> would be a worthwhile investment on Adobe's part (or any software > >> company's, really); at least that's how I think they see it. > Developers > >> don't spend money and, in my experience, rarely affect how it > gets spent > >> in any significant way and on what technologies an organization will > >> use, (though many seem to mistakenly think they have a larger > impact on > >> both) . I think the developers who do end up affecting the way these > >> decisions are taken often dig to find the information they > need and are > >> only moderately inconvenienced by any lack of available low-level > >> information. In the end, I just don't think the marketing folks care > >> what anyone other than the aforementioned IT Manager types think. The > >> mindset seems, very often, to be one of: market straight to > the decision > >> maker and if you do your job right, he'll take care of the rest. > >> > >> Maybe I'm just rambling, but I've had this conversation with an > >> associate a number of times about a number of different companies. I'm > >> not speaking to whether this is negative or positive, but it does seem > >> to be the case. Also, I know that each of you out there > reading this are > >> all the exceptions to this and have tremendous pull on your > >> organization's decision making, so please don't feel insulted. : ) > >> > >> --Ferg > >> > >> Bryan Stevenson wrote: > >> > >>> preaching to the choir Rick ;-) > >>> > >>> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > >>> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > >>> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > >>> phone: 250.480.0642 > >>> fax: 250.480.1264 > >>> cell: 250.920.8830 > >>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> web: www.electricedgesystems.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232005 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
