Nothing anymore -----Original Message----- From: Terry L Schmitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 15:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
So what's this got to do with CrystalTech and SQL Server? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ "Mark A Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/10/2006 10:28 AM Please respond to cf-talk@houseoffusion.com To CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> cc Subject RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? Jacob, That was me, and I did not use the word "fanatic". I was responding to someone who declared themselves a "linux snob". I was only speaking from personal experience. There are 6 developers here and we use a lot of technologies. No one has anything "bad" to say about Linux and we use it for specific purposes. So, from my perspective it's true. Windows folks are less prone to sling mud on Linux than Linux on Windows. My point (wich I did not explain very well), is that this has more to do with the "power differential" than the merits of the OS. Please allow me to indulge in a little analogy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- In sociological terms when a large power differential exists between 2 groups, it unites the minority group or entity under a banner of a common enemy and necessitates a higher level of loyalty. That may be what is happening here. A Windows user, being a part of the establishment power, can live without Linux and it doesn't appreciably affect his life. He can dabble in "Linux Culture" and spend time in the Linux neighborhood. He can choose to engage Linux users, or he can pretend they don't exist. Either way his life isn't affected to a great degree. He even has the luxury of saying "some of my best friends are Linux Users" :) Meanwhile a Linux user can't get away from Windows no matter how hard they try. The people they are forced to work for use windows. Developers writing applications on Linux must first make sure they work for windows users. Files come in windows formats, applications are released on windows and ported to Linux as an afterthought. They see the windows OS in power terms - a corrupt institution based on a poor operating system that magically took away power rightly belonging to the peoples while Linux has come (in the words of George Hamilton in "Zorro the gay blade") to "defend the defensless, and defeat the feetless". So my point was that windows users, being in a position of power, can "take it or leave it" without getting up in arms about it - while Linux folks feel like it is necessary to fight every battle in order to make any headway. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Now please understand the analogy only works to a point. There is no "moral quality" to Linux - no high road. It's just an operating system for gosh sakes :) So I'm not saying that Linus Torvalis is the modern day equivelent of Martin Luther King. I'm only pointing out that the idea of a power differential - when the margin is great enough - has a predictable effect, as I think it does in this case. -Mk -----Original Message----- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > That's kinda like "UNIX/Linux fans" who will use Unix based stuff no > matter how much of a PIA it is, right? My post previous to the one you replied to stated this point exactly. There are fanatical users in every camp. I was just responding to an accusation that there are only Linux fanatics, but no Microsoft fanatics. I don't remember who it was, but he was professing that Microsoft users will try all the options out there, while Linux users will shun Microsoft at all costs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240091 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
