Also, one of the main benefits of the XML is that the program structure and
flow is described there, and not among the rest of the CF code. This enables
tools like Fusebuilder, fuseminder, etc. that can document and modify the
flow+structure of the application programmatically.



On 7/3/06, Nathan Strutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/3/06, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>Second, [...] the limited XML syntax
> > forces you to stand back and think about your application.
> >
> > OK, so it's better because it's limited?
>
>
>
> Yeah. Believe it or not.
> It makes sure your application controller isn't doing anything but than
> controlling your application. Still, there are ways to get around it (hey,
> we're all hackers here), but it takes more work.
>
>
> >>Third, it's easier to parse.
> >
> > Oh noooo, please, not again with this old BS!
> > This was the main point with people claiming advanges of Pascal:
> > it's easier to compile!
> > But please, c'mon, since when the purpose of a language is to be parsed
> > or compiled?
> > A language exists to make applications easier to develop for developers,
> > period!
> > Whether it is formal or not, easier or more difficult for the programer
> > to write a parser, is completely insignificant.
>
>
>
> That's fine, call it how you see it. I see it as an open source community
> project made by seasoned CF developers. They're not trying to recreate the
> CF parsing engine or the JDK (which would then be incompatible with
> BlueDragon) in an application framework. They're just trying to automate
> some code gen techniques and create a framework for strucuring your
> applications. XML is "in" and quickly & easily accomplishes a lot of the
> goals for the framework. It sounds like an easy choice for me, and the
> same
> arguments could be made for M2 and MG.
>
> Anyways, all to say this: The XML syntax isn't necessarily easier or
> better
> than CFML, but for what this, or other XML-based frameworks do for you,
> the
> extra brain space is worth using these frameworks.
>
>
>
> > OK, it may be less worse the FB3, but the question is "is it any better
> > than plain vanillia CF?"
>
>
> The truth is, it is trying to be better than FB3, which is of course an
> improvement on FB 2 & 1. I've said it before: Everywhere I've gone to work
> on pre-built code has some application running a FB1/2 style process (the
> main page with a big cfswitch, including files). It's everywhere, and this
> is an improvement on it.
>
>
> -nathan strutz
> http://www.dopefly.com/
>
>
> 

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