Actually you're both wrong.
The bill reads
"Under the bill, California electronic mail service providers may publish a
notice forbidding the use of their equipment to send or deliver spam. They
may sue anyone who violates this for $50 per message up to $25,000 per day
in which the spamming takes place, or actual damages. Attorneys' fees are
also recoverable."
That means that you're ISP get's the money not the end user.
Also, according to m-w.com spam is "unsolicited usually commercial E-mail
sent to a large number of addresses". That means any message that you send
me that i didn't explicitly ask for is spam as long as you send it to
several differen't people at once. And, yes, doing loop so that only one
address goes out at a time is still spam.
If I'm on the list remove me please.
--K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
>
>
> Only if you opted never to receive a mailing from our Company
> is that law
> applicable. ... We get our names from Internet related
> companies that have
> strict privacy policies that only give us names of those who
> are internet
> development related and want other information... FYI all
> outbound emails
> have a opt out completely link and we send that through XML
> to the partner
> who gave it to us... That way 2 birds with one stone... The
> business we have
> built is the prism of incorporation to individuals who want
> to focus on
> their own technologies. Not learning and keeping up with every type of
> technology. This conclusively makes each persons experience
> rise in worth.
> The purpose of the Original posting was to open valid conversation
> concerning opt in procedures... Is preferences enough? I think that no
> matter what solution the FTC and the Senate decides, it will be one of
> solidarity... But to be clear if it happened continually to a
> recipient
> who's ISP resides in CA; the fee is only $50.
>
> http://seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu/~zerkle/ab1629/
>
> -brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Developer Directory?
>
>
> > So you're building a business off of this list? Great. Go ahead and
> include
> > me, but be aware that according to California law I can and
> will charge
> you
> > $500 per email. :P
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian bouldernet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:00 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> >
> >
> > All great things are realized great until the "flack" is at
> it's worst....
> > Most Recently.
> > Napster, NetAppliance, WAP, Cicso, NDS..
> >
> >
> > We'll see guys... I promise no spam... Our group came from a email
> marketing
> > company we sold out to double click. optinemail.com...
> >
> > We inatied the AOL hell thread because of the way AOL reparses
> doublequoted
> > links in all email so they have exclusive linking in emails.
> >
> > Our goal. To be directory for other developers doing there
> own thing to
> > focus on their expertise.. Cold Fusion, Spectra whatever.
> The lets say a
> > flash developer need function.... There you go....
> >
> > Later,
> > Talk to you later...
> > -brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> >
> >
> > > I think there's one active already. I've got one in beta
> at FA but it
> > isn't
> > > up yet.
> > > Personally, I feel that the approach your taking is not
> the best as many
> > > feel like they're being dragged into something they
> didn't want to be
> part
> > > of. Posting a request to a public place and saying for
> people to come
> > visit
> > > is one thing, but scanning their email addresses and then
> emailing them
> > > directly to do so doesn't feel right. Someone else did
> something very
> > > similar and got a LOT of flack for it.
> > >
> > >
> > > > We've created a directory of about 1200 developers from
> talk graoups,
> > > > confrences, and what not, does anyone see any major
> issues emailing
> > > everyone
> > > > to ask to modify a profile we have setup and make live
> on a site that
> > > rates
> > > > each one based on customer satisifaction and developer
> strengths like
> > > > Spectra, CF, Database skills. All on a opt in procedure
> currently.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any existing directories?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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