>and neither is that fact that ASP/PHP code is more
>complicated and therefore will have more bugs.

I find the opposite Russ coming from PHP to CF Cf is alot more verbose than
PHP. I am learning CF as I work for a CF shop FullTime as a Web Systems
Developer. Cant speak for ASP


>I don't think PHP has any sort of session management, so it's not even a
>contender in the enterprise world.

Can you elaborate on this?? I use session vars all the time in php. I have
done apps for Verizon that are php.

Eric




On 2/7/07, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think ASP/PHP do have cheaper hosting, and the whole selling point is
> that
> it's free.  The fact that it will take longer to develop an app is not
> immediately clear, and neither is that fact that ASP/PHP code is more
> complicated and therefore will have more bugs.
>
> ASP also probably performs better then CF.  From what I hear, Bluedragon
> ..NET performs better then CF, and doesn't have the memory problems that
> CF
> does.
>
> Also if you want to have any sort of load balanced environment, I believe
> ASP has it built in somewhere (haven't really looked into it), and it's
> free, while for CF you have to shell out $12000 (2 Enterprise Licenses).
> Even if you have a fairly low traffic site, but you would like to have a
> load balanced environment, it's going to cost you a lot of money to get
> there.  (If you need session replication at least).  Also, from what I've
> been told, session replication doesn't work reliably with CF, although I
> have not experienced problems myself.
>
> Another issue is that it doesn't scale easily.  Not that CF can't scale,
> but
> if I have an a CF App that cost me $x to develop, and a ASP.NET app that
> cost me $2x to develop, if I need to scale it out with multiple servers,
> at
> some point the cost of the licenses for the new servers outweigh the cost
> of
> developing the app in the first place.  The fact that you can run CF on
> linux and forego windows licensing costs offsets this somewhat, but
> there's
> still a significant difference.  This is most likely why MySpace is moving
> towards .NET.
>
> I don't think PHP has any sort of session management, so it's not even a
> contender in the enterprise world.
>
> Personally, I don't know PHP or ASP.NET, but I should probably start
> learning them.
>
> Russ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:30 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?
> >
> > Just a side note, or question...What reasons do people think that
> asp/php
> > has the stronghold on web development, and what can be done to make CF
> > just
> > as popular?
> >
> > A. Better performing code
> > B. Cheaper development
> > C. Cheaper hosting
> > D. Other (Explain)
> >
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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