>I have nothing against Fusebox at all. I think I've made that pretty clear. >I have respect for their product, even if I don't personally use it.
Product?? Product???!?!? Is that how you see the community-created frameworks and tools or was that perhaps just a bad choice of words? >Your first paragraph though is the crux of the problem. Companies EXPECT >people to work for free to get a "prize". *Some* companies. And I've answered this in another response in the thread. >I would never do a design for free just to get a job. That's fine. There are some jobs you would never get (and, by your principles, those would be for companies - or community projects - that you wouldn't want to work for). >What if >someone wanted you to write an app for them just to be considered for a >position? Would you do it? No, I won't even write code "on demand" in an interview. I'd probably point them at some of my open source code. If I were a designer, I'd want to be able to point them at a public portfolio. If that portfolio is made broader by community contributions, that sounds like a good thing to me. But it's a value judgment each developer or designer must make for themselves. >What if this was a coding contest to write the best function to do X. Like Ray's contests, you mean? >Would you be willing >to spend 30 hours writing a function that might never even get used because >someone elses was better? I've contributed many hundreds of hours to open source projects over the years**. Some get used. Some don't. I don't complain to mailing lists about it... :) ** including OpenOffice.org, Mono, GNU's Standard Template Library for C++ and numerous others that have nothing to do with websites or ColdFusion. I don't know if my contributions are actually part of those projects or whether any attribution recognizes my work. That's fine. I contributed without any expectations. Sean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269360 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4