Oh and btw one of the biggest coldfusion/blue dragon websites also
demonstrates the race conditon problem, using persisant variables that
aren't locked.

So your point Dave?


On 4/15/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Thats what I mean, best practice says use cfqueryparam, and every document
> you read regardless of cfmx 5.0, 6.0, 7.0 says when writing to a variable
> you will have a race condition.
>
> Now I can't name the version I tested this on, but I followed one of the
> articles directions on how a race condition will work. And you know what, it
> proves that even this version of Coldfusion needs cflock around perstant
> variable writes.
>
> So I went back a version, and tried v7.02 on the same test, same thing the
> results indicate a cflock is needed.
>
> So your point is?
>
>
>
> On 4/15/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > You made a valid point, but let me switch to cfquery for a
> > > min. It has become best practice to use cfqueryparam to stop
> > > sql injection, but there is times when you don't need it either.
> > >
> > > And as discussed on another mailing list about this issue, I
> > > made the point that if the query is inside a cfunction where
> > > the conditions where either inside the function or passed
> > > through as arguments, then a cfqueryparam is certainly not
> > > needed. But people still do it because it is best practice.
> >
> > This is a poor analogy, because it's very easy to determine whether you
> > need
> > to use CFQUERYPARAM: if you use data that originated from the browser in
> > your query, directly or indirectly, you need to prevent SQL injection
> > attacks. Otherwise, you don't. It doesn't matter whether your CFQUERY is
> >
> > within a function; if it is, and it uses arguments that originated with
> > browser-supplied data, then you are vulnerable to the same SQL injection
> > attacks. Of course, since CFQUERYPARAM can also provide performance
> > benefits, you might want to use it elsewhere as well. In general,
> > prepared
> > statements perform better.
> >
> > Locking, on the other hand, degrades performance. Unnecessary locking
> > degrades performance unnecessarily.
> >
> > > *"Locking shared scope variables within ColdFusion templates
> > > is an often overlooked process that has severe consequences
> > > when best practices are not followed. This document will
> > > explain why the process of locking shared scope variables is
> > > important and the corresponding best practices.
> > >
> > > Developers should be advised that these practices should not
> > > be considered optional under any circumstances. Most cases of
> > > ColdFusion site instability can be traced back to inproper
> > > use or complete lack of locking. ...
> >
> > You realize that this quote is not applicable to CFMX, right? Omitting
> > locks
> > hasn't caused instability since CF 5. There have been significant
> > changes to
> > how locking works between CF 5 and CFMX, and consequently, to how you
> > should
> > implement locking within your applications.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
> > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
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> >
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