Initially this was brought up in another thread. I'm re-posting this because it's getting way off the topic of frameworks. But may be of interests to others looking at CS3the other post: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks) http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:51491 ~ On 5/6/07, Jeff Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > After all this discussion, it's become obvious to me that we're probably > just fine building applications the way we're building them, and CS3 will > work well with the system of we have in place, especially being so tightly > integrated with a full blown art production department that we rely on so > heavily.
New shit! Jeff, I'm with you on this but looking at the next 5 years, it's going to be an interesting roadtrip. I'm not talking as much about the frameworks here as I am Flex and Apollo and what this means for us using dreamweaver for our main development platform. I LOVE Dreamweaver, Love it!!! But while I might be able to get another year or 2 out of creating sites that are straight coldfusion, as Flex and Apollo applications start making it to the mainstream there is going to be more demand from our end to produce applications built around these technologies and it seems like eclipse is going to be the route we need to travel. It really sucks ass big time that FlexBuilder is not built on something other than eclipse, AND the icing on the cake is IT'S NOT EVEN included in CS3 web edition. Ok, deep breaths, in, out, in, out, in, out... Here is what I've seen so far in CS3, mind you I don't use much outside of Dreamweaver so there might be some super cool features in other programs in the CS3 suite that make it worth the upgrade but looking at it from at Dreamweaver standpoint. I think it's time I switch to eclipse. We got our new buddy Steve who just joined our team. Slightly jellous because he has the new Vista Box loaded with CS3, but for the adobe products, and dreamweaver in general which I would normally be using... SPRY is the only thing I see in there that makes it cool, and spry is so easy to begin with who cares it ads the scripts you need and creates a couple of new wizards. I think that's about it... Now don't get me wrong, if I was better at using the snap and marque select tool in Photoshop or Fireworks, I might see a 30 minute gain in productivity in using the copy paste shit from those programs into dreamweaver, outside of that. I don't see fireworks exporting layouts as CSS so what the fuck is the point! FTP still only allows for one file to be uploaded at a time as well. I could count 10 more ways Dreamweaver has disappointed me from my initial looks, but I'll only give you one more here. Use FTP to get and receive files and you would notice dreamweaver does this one file at a time. Don't believe this changed with CS3. I tried looking at the status window and didn't see anything that looked otherwise. So again, I can use FireFTP in firefox and gain more functionality than this program. I can't tell you enough how much it hurts me inside to say that, I really loved dreamweaver, going forward I might only be using it for checkin checkout. While it's not the best version control, it works just fine for sites we work on, at anyone given time we might have one Graphic Designer, one Developer and one Search Engine Optimizer working on a website. checkin checkout is great in that scenario. Teaching these other types of website editors how to use eclipse is about as stupid as dreamweaver not being updated to include functionality from the FLEX SDK. I asked this question on the Dreamweaver General Discussion Thread... Maybe I'm still wrong but I don't really see what the difference is for a code developer, i just don't really want to be using something different than everyone else. http://tinyurl.com/2zy94q There may be other benefits, I could switch to linux and only run windows when I need photoshop or something that can't run in crossover office. I'm sure I don't need CS3 for this stuff, sorry adobe. Casey* * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
