Good evening Sandra and everyone,

    As one who is blind and uses a screen reader for exactly that reason
you're right on. I looked at the site and the tag Pete sent in his message.
In so far as I know when using the alt attribute you must use a proper
description. For example:
<img onmouseover="imgMain.src='photos/large/#rsGetDetails.pic1#';"
src="photos/thumbs/#rsGetDetails.pic1#" class="border" name="thumbnail1"
border="0" width="50" height="50" alt="Home" />

    The screen reader sees this text and gives the link a proper name.

    Another way alt text is used is to describe images such as pictures.
Example:

<img src=http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb_mfi.gif alt="National Federation of
the Blind members surrounding the outdoor stage at Sentennial Park. Former
United States Embassador Andrew Young Addresses the croud during the
first-ever NFB March for Independence." />

    I hope these examples will enable you to create and use alt text
correctly. By the way the event I described in my photo description alt text
example above is slated to take place on the morning of July 3, 2007 in
Atlanta Georgia during the 67th annual Convention of the National Federation
of the Blind. Our convention will begin on June 29th and will conclude on
Friday July 6th, 2007. It is being held at the Marriott Marquis in downtown
Atlanta.

    I'm mentioning this here as among the many activities taking place
throughout the week there will be seminars and demonstrations of the
assistive technology used by blind computer users. There will also be an
exhibit hall in the International Level in the Marriott where you can visit
with vendors of these products and ask questions of their representatives to
help you be better able to ensure your Web sites and applications can be
used by persons with disabilities including the blind.

    A number of our special interest groups are also concerned with the use
of access technology and ensuring that applications and Web sites are
disabled-friendly. I'll post a list of these in a subsequent message in the
hopes that those of you that can get away to spend some time at our
convention will know when these activities are taking place. I'll only list
computer and Internet-related meetings.

    Visits from the Web and application design community also helps us
familliarize ourselves with new technologies being used to create these
applications. This will go a long way to help us determine how best to
design RIAS these technologies are used to build to ensure their usability
by the blind and disabled. For example I'm one of only a few blind
ColdFusion developers I know of. Not very many of us are acquainted with
frameworks such as ColdSpring, Mach II, Model Glue, Flex, Spri, AJAX, etc.
And let me knot forget Apollo. The discussions I've read and heard lead me
to think that some very useful applications could be created with Apollo
which could be made to work with screen readers.

    Anyway I wanted to let you all know about the convention in the event
those of you who will be in Atlanta during the first week of July can visit
with us if your schedules permit to learn how assistive technology works,
and to get tips and tricks from end-users of your creations the blind
themselves on how to ensure their accessibility for blind persons. For more
information about the National Federation of the Blind and the up-coming
National Convention please visit:
http://www.nfb.org

Here's hoping some of you can attend the convention and I, along with other
blind individuals will get a chance to meet you in person. While I'm at it
are there folks on here who are members of the Atlanta CFUG?I just visited
their Web site to find out when the July meeting was held. Assuming it's
held on a night when there's nothing going on there may be a few of us who
might want to attend depending on the location in relation to the Marriott
Marquis. I looked on their Web site and did not see a date listed for their
July Meeting. If someone has that information please let me know so I can
spread the word among our Webmasters and others who may want to attend to
learn more about CF, and what it could do for our Web sites. I know that's
more than I intended for this message, but I did want to alert you all to
our convention to peak your interest in possibly coming to see assistive
technology and see demonstrations of how it works. Let me quit for now to
gather the list of events you may want to attend. All convention sessions
including special interest seminars are open to the public. And best of all
they're free. Best wishes to everyone for a great weekend.

Peter Donahue

I
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandra Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: Alt tag


To get a little pedantic,  the alt attribute is not meant to be a tooltip
(although IE treats it that way.  Its supposed to provide an alternate
description of the graphic for assistive technology to read when a non
sighted person can't see the actual graphic.

IE renders alt text as a tooltip.  Firefox does not.  Its not something you
have control over.


Sandra Clark
=============
http://www.shayna.com
Training and Consulting  in CSS and Accessibility
Team Fusebox


-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Alt tag

Hi there



I'm trying to get an Alt tag to appear with the main image but having no
luck?  Any suggestions where I need to place the Alt text etc?



<img onmouseover="imgMain.src='photos/large/#rsGetDetails.pic1#';"
src="photos/thumbs/#rsGetDetails.pic1#" class="border" name="thumbnail1"
border="0" width="50" height="50" alt="#rsGetDetails.pic1_alttext#" />



Basically I have a number of thumbnails where a person can scroll over - I
would just like to place an Alt tag with the main image as well.



The site can be viewed at
http://dev.cleverminds.com.au/cosmeticbeautydirectory





Thanks in advance.



P








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