I have taken and passed both the Allaire and the Brainbench CF tests.
I took these tests for myself to see where I ranked, I didn't take them for
the job I am at or any job I might move to because the people I work with
more than likely won't care about the paper, they will care about the work
I do.
The people who do look at these tests typically do so because they do not
have anything else to gauge a persons ability on.
If you are up for a job at a place who is looking for their first web
programmer then a certification can tell them that you can at least solve
simple problems. Are you a bad programmer if mistype a pound sign in one of
your variables? Are you a bad programmer if you cannot find that error?
At 02:47 PM 11/17/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I agree with Jeremy. I wrote the exam, but must admint that I did so only
>because it was free. As for knowledge, if you have been kicking CF around
>for a while, it should not be an issue. Does it guage if you are a master,
>or even advanced? I don't think so. It was quite basic.
>
>James
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeremy Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:10 PM
>Subject: OT RE: Certification Exam
>
>
> > Well since were all being opinionated ill speak along
> > the same lines as Simon.
> >
> > I do not believe in tests such as the Allaire Certification,
> > MCSE, Brainbenc, Multiple guess tests, plain and simple.
> >
> > A test like this will do very little to gauge anything as
> > you guys have mentioned but your ability to memorize something.
> > Whats the point?
> >
> > Here is my example.
> > Two people:
> > Person A.) One fails the CF exam due to test anxiety/little working
> > knowledge
> > of ColdFusion
> >
> > Person B.) Another person passes the CF Exam with flying colors, studied
> > just
> > a little the night before the test.
> >
> > I think the failure in the exam does NOT mean you cannot accomplish
> > a particular task without assisstance. Person A with a book in front of
>him
> > or
> > her could work twice as fast as Peron B with just a little visiaul clues
> > and the manual with them to figure out exact particulars on Syntax or
> > exactly
> > how this particular CF tag interacts with a protocol person A is
>intimately
> > familiar with.
> >
> > Does the CF Exam prove that the person gets how everything fits toghether?
> > From the Kernel of the operating system on up to the final presentation of
> > a CF Generated HTML page? I dont think so.
> >
> > I think you can ask questions that can illustrate very crudely at best
> > someones problem solving skills (with multiple guess). I think essay style
> > questions graded by very experienced and knowledgeable programmers (which
> > would make the cost of the test prohibitive to say the least) is a much
> > better gauge of a programmer.
> >
> > Sit someone in a room, give them three hours and all the reference
>material
> > to CF they usually use, assign them a particular task, review the code and
> > overall structure and coherency of their particular method of solving the
> > problem.
> >
> > In those three hours you can gauge more about someones programming skill
> > than any multiple guess test is going to. Again there is still the fact
> > that some people just perform miserably under pressure like that.. but
>then
> > again deadlines happen, a lot more often than they should.
> >
> > This is a really sore topic of mine. I take tests fine but I just dont see
> > the point to all this certification malarky. Honestly I cant be to sure
> > I would want to work somewhere where something as easy to rig as the
> > the Brainbench test is a factor for deciding if I am hired.
> >
> > Taking the CF Exam can be a "good" thing if you want to say that your shop
> > has
> > "xyz" Certified Developers or whatever, if its free of cost to you.. might
> > as well. I cant see even in the most highly regarded jobs how
>certification
> > can be negative. Not needed, likely. Negative, I dont think so :)
> >
> >
> > Anyways...
> >
> > Jeremy Allen
> > ElliptIQ Inc.
> >
> >
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