> Sorry Justin your going to have to use Google yourself this time :-)

Hi Russ, not to get too far off track, but that's another way of
saying: "I'm pretty sure they're out there so I'll be vague in my
argument and then not be prepared to back up my claims with examples."
 I really am interested in finding prior art, and you mentioned it's
out there so I'm asking for specific examples.  Apparently my
Google-foo is not as strong as yours. :-)


-Justin

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