This was not meant for this list I dont believe, but please tell me which.
I'd love to give this John Wilker a piece of my mind.
As a high school dropout, I believe the opposite is true.
Classes teach you syntax not solutions. Most college educated computer
"professionals" I know, know far fewer whys about computers in general than
most of my non educated friends who just played with computers when we were
young...

jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:23 PM
Subject: Fwd: RE: Net Tanking?


> I believe this was to go to the list...  ;o)
>
> Judith
>
> >From: Nick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Net Tanking?
> >
> >John I would ask you to consider if you painted with too broad of a
brush?
> >Judith is right. Formal training allows the same person to become
> >proficient at a faster pace. One cannot extend that logic to say that
> >anyone with formal training is better everyone with out formal training.
> >If that were true then everyone who ever graduated from a University
would
> >be more successful than Bill Gates who dropped out of (I believe)
Harvard.
> >
> >Nick
> >
> >>You know, not everyone can afford to take the CF Classes. Some of us
> >>"people who work from [their] our 'bedrooms' do so not because we really
> >>want to, but because circumstances have made it so we have to. I live in
an
> >>area that is not 'overflowing' with CF opportunities....and because of
> >>personal involvements, I have no wish to move.
> >>
> >>I have been working with CF only since version 3.1, I have a college
degree
> >>in fine arts and come from a non-programming background. Does this make
me
> >>less of a professional? I have worked as a UNIX account
> >>assistant/consultant (a step or so below full UNIX administration -
taking
> >>care of those problems that sys admins shouldn't need to worry about)
and
> >>as a CF developer. All my computer skills I learned on my own...starting
> >>with Macintosh, working through UNIX, learning Windows 3.1, 95, 98 and
NT4,
> >>and Linux (RedHat 6.2).
> >>
> >>Some day, I would love to be able to afford to get some 'formalized
> >>training' if only to have that piece of paper that "proves my worth" to
> >>people who, when they don't see a CIS or MIS degree listed in my resume,
> >>dismiss my abilities - to do or to learn.
> >>
> >>I proudly call myself a professional.
> >>
> >>Judith Taylor
> >>A Freelance 'bedroom' CF Developer
> >>
> >>At 12:27 PM 2000-12-27, John Wilker wrote:
> >> >[snip]
> >> >That's a very common theme, in any industry, the professional people
who
> >> >have honed their skills taken classes and such have to contend with
people
> >> >who work from their bedrooms and call themselves professionals, who
flood
> >> >the market and cast a bad light on the industry as a whole.
> >> >
> >> >That being said (just a gripe I've had for a long time :-))
> >>
> >>Judith Taylor
> >>ICQ: 67460562
> >>Freelance ColdFusion Developer
> >
> >Judith Taylor
> >ICQ: 67460562
> >Freelance ColdFusion Developer
>
>
>
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