And TDD is the easiest way to cover the re-factoring necessary to prevent 1500 line files from turning up. It's also the easiest way to come up with the good designs that are equally as necessary.
Dev shops who've implemented TDD can and do easily measure the improvement in code quality scientifically. Indicators such as number of defects discovered post-deployment (or even during development) are a tangible, improvable measurement. Seriously, instead of being offended, try reading more on Agile practices. This stuff actually works and produces measurably better results and measurably better value for your clients (which is what it's all about). -- Shu Ha Ri: Agile and .NET blog http://www.bifrost.com.au/ On 29 February 2012 09:48, Michael Stemle <themanchic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > In properly designed code you don't have 1500-line files. Now that I've > made my ridiculous assertion can we please move on? > > This is just silly, and there is no actual reason behind your assertion, > merely an arrogant assertion that you know how everyone else's applications > are written, and that you have - at long last - discovered a unifying > theory in computer science. > > Tests are great, useful, and absolutely vital to modern development > practice... but they are a poor substitute for documentation or debuggers. > > -- > ~ Mike Stemle, Jr. > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 19:36, James Holmes <james.hol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Those using comments to plan code probably don't have any tests. Tests > are > > essential to allow re-factoring with confidence; comments don't provide > > that benefit. This is not a religious belief, it's something that can be > > demonstrated the first time you want to maintain a 1500 line file and all > > you have are comments. > > > > In TDD, the test is written first. It expresses the design for the code > to > > follow. When the code is then re-factored, it ensures the code still > meets > > the original design. > > > > -- > > Shu Ha Ri: Agile and .NET blog > > http://www.bifrost.com.au/ > > > > > > On 29 February 2012 08:45, Michael Stemle <themanchic...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> > >> We are in disagreement. Some of us actually use comments as a way of > >> planning and maintaining our code. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350154 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
