Thanks, all!
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Brian Cain <bcc9...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If you use a simple AJAX call back to the server that contains the width > and height, you are not adding much overhead, and more importantly, you can > then ask the user if they want the full or mobile site. I personally do not > like it when I am redirected to the mobile site. Most mobile browsers can > render the full desktop version just fine in today's world. Why not let the > user decide what they want to see instead of forcing a particular version > on them. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:26 PM, "Dan G. Switzer, II" < > dswit...@pengoworks.com> wrote: > > > > > > While user agent can be spoofed (and pretty easily with most browsers), > the > > reality is it's not a problem you need to worry about. You do generally > > want to try and avoid user agent when possible, but if your trying to > > detect the device purely on the server, there really isn't another > option. > > Any kind of client side detection (such as screen width) will require and > > least a two trips to the server--once to serve up the client-side code > that > > detects the device, then you hit the server again to change the layout. > > > >> On Friday, September 27, 2013, John M Bliss wrote: > >> > >> > >>> I would suggest basing your redirect on screen width rather than user > >> agent strings. > >> > >> This. This is why I ask questions like this one of this list. Answer so > >> simple and yet so genius. Thank you! > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Brian Cain <bcc9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> I would suggest basing your redirect on screen width rather than user > >>> agent strings. Also the dev tools in Chrome has a neat little feature > to > >>> allow you to specify a different user agent as well as screen size for > >>> testing on the desktop. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:13 PM, "Dan G. Switzer, II" < > >>>> dswit...@pengoworks.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> John, > >>>> > >>>> I've looked into the following recently: > >>>> > >>>> - http://detectmobilebrowsers.com/ - In my testing, the code they > >> give > >>>> you works surprisingly well. It does not report tablets as mobile, > >>> which is > >>>> the behavior I was looking for, but not be want you want. They > >>> basically > >>>> give you some CFML and then you tweak the conditional statement for > >>> your > >>>> needs. > >>>> - WURFL (Java API) - Pretty easily to get up and running w/CF. The > >>>> licensing is a bit weird, but you get very robust information back. > >>> Due to > >>>> the fact you must load a 16MB XML config file, the initialization > >> time > >>> is > >>>> really slow, so you definitely want to cache your implementation so > >> the > >>>> init only happens once. > >>>> - 51Degrees (Java API) - They offer a free version, but it lumps > >>> tablets > >>>> in as a mobile device. You can upgrade to a paid version to > >>> differentiate > >>>> tablets and phones. I like the API better than WURFL and > >>> initialization is > >>>> much faster, but analyzing data is much slower. WURFL is darn quick. > >>>> > >>>> I've still be trying to find a good database of User Agents that > breaks > >>> the > >>>> strings down into "desktop", "tablet" and "phone" so that I could run > >>> unit > >>>> tests of the various implementations, but the DetectMobileBrowsers.com > >>> code > >>>> has been as accurate as WURFL in my limited tests of a few dozen user > >>>> agents. > >>>> > >>>> -Dan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:26 PM, John M Bliss <bliss.j...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Agreed. Unfortunately, client has only approved hours to develop > >> mobile > >>>>> version...not hours to redevelop / redesign existing site so that > it's > >>>>> responsive. > >>>>> > >>>>> Basically, when mobile is detected, I'll be rendering a > >> mobile-optimized > >>>>> "skin" around existing CFML CMS-driven "center trough" content. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Che Vilnonis <ch...@asitv.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You could also look to "Responsive Web Design" in lieu of creating a > >>>>>> separate site. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ~Ché > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Ron Gowen [mailto:rsgo...@gmail.com] > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:21 PM > >>>>>> To: cf-talk > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mobile > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> i use this: (not sure im cool though) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://github.com/sebarmeli/JS-Redirection-Mobile-Site > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM, John M Bliss < > bliss.j...@gmail.com > >>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi! I'm tasked with developing mobile browser-optimized version of > >>>>>>> existing site. What're the cool kids currently using for mobile > >>> Archive: > >> > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356863 > >> Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm > >> Unsubscribe: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm > > > > > > -- > > Dan G. Switzer, II > > dswit...@pengoworks.com > > http://blog.pengoworks.com/ > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356867 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
