I would love to see a future CF server that can do all the things that
we use it for today, plus with added capability to natively tie into and
control multimedia and other rich presentation formats (streaming,
flash, etc). The best of both worlds.
Kevin
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/17/01 08:15AM >>>
I have a few observations that allay my fears some.
Since early on in the history of the 2 companies, Macromedia and
Allaire
have had a very close relationship. In 1998, Allaire and Macromedia
were
co-sponsors of the Builder.com Live conference in New Orleans.
Now that Macromedia needs a server component for thier multimedia web
efforts, they turn to Allaire.
I feel that Cold Fusion will continue on the current development path
for 12
months or so. Then we should see a combining of the CF application
server
with multimedia servers. It will be a single turn-key solution for
anyone
setting up a web site. CF provides the interface to the backend and
the
Macromedia the streaming audio, video, etc.
Russel
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen R. Cassady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 03:32
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Why I'm a little worried about it being MM taking over
>
>
>
> OK - while I'm happy that CF may survive (as a developer my strength
is CF
> not ASP though I now have second thoughts) - my main worry is in my
> knowledge and experience of MacroMedia:
>
> I purchased Drumbeat 2000 (Drumbeat is the company that MM bought
> to develop
> UltraDev). Drumbeat was a visual tool that incorporated database
access -
> though it's visual side lacked a lot of features. I never upgraded
because
> it took so long for MM to release their UltraDev Version. So - time
to
> market after company purchase. This worry extends to CF 5.0/6.0 with
the
> Java Engine.
>
> I'm familiar with their FreeHand product, and have seen (what I
believe)
> slow development of a product even in light of strong competition
(Corel
> Draw and Adobe Illustrator), with a tendency to ignore the
development
> community. I have never seen a product "pony show" so viciously
> ripped apart
> as they were up here in Calgary a while back. There was real venom
from a
> lack of corporate response.
>
> I looked at .asp and went .cfm instead because of Unix support.
Macromedia
> is inherently not Unix, UNLESS it's a Mac OSX port to be done. We
> are taking
> people who love their Macs. (I love Macs too - just server based,
hell,
> DATABASE web work is generally Unix or NT, some J2EE).
>
> I own DreamWeaver and Studio. I use Studio. Enough said.
>
> Amazing Allaire off-line support and customer retention: I received
a
> t-shirt because they rescheduled an online presentation. They are
> one of the
> few company's that has gone out of it's way to maintain my interest
and
> support as a developer.
>
> Finally: Macromedia is primarily a graphics-platform company, and
recently
> really only competed with Adobe. This is their first move into
something
> much more founded in the structure of communication - not just
> the look and
> feel. I have some concern if the culture can bend to give the
> Allaire staff
> a sense of home.
>
> I hope most of the Allaire staff join Macromedia.
>
> Sniff! Hey - what happens to Ben Forta?
>
> (Ok so maybe from those last comments I'm just knee-jerking).
>
> But I guess I've staked close to 2 years of hardcore development
> on CF (with
> experimentation and some development in other areas), and my belief
in
> MacroMedia as a corporate entity that can enter the server/code
> side of the
> market (because Allaire really isn't Studio - it's the underlying
> code base
> in Cold Fusion), is troubled.
>
> Can a graphics company successfully incorporate a hard-code set of
> engineers, and maket/maitain/grow a server product successfully?
>
> Well,
> I hope - and I'll try to give a benefit of the doubt.
> :-)
>
> Stephen Cassady
> President, Ububik new media
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 403.271.0468
>
> http://www.ububik.com http://www.tallylist.com
http://www.spankmag.com
>
>
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